assault rifle vs battle rifle - Page 5

SuRpLuS · October 4th, 2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibesarcasm

Can I just interject into this a quick thought?

We are trying to battle anti gun legislation, by anti gun opponents who say we do not need "assault" rifles. And I believe they are 100% correct..... we, as responsable gun owners, and citizens do not need "assault" weaponry of any type!

However, I refuse to give up my "anti-assault" AR-15 style weapons, My "anti-assault" shotguns, or my "anti-assault" handguns! Because that is what they are for..... I'm NOT going to assault anyone, but I WILL use them to DEFEND myself..... there by making them "Anti" assault weapons......

What do you think the

and the news and the anti gunners would say if we started calling them "anti-assault" weapons??

I think most of us completely agree, I would never be the first to draw a gun... However defense wise I would never want to be without one... Cops often say to the CCW "one less victim". Yet people are trying to ban it? Unedjucated blabber...

The UK has one of the highest violent crime rates, and guess what. Guns are illegal there not even cops can carry without getting proper temporary authority... Look at other country's with no gun ownership and the pattern repeats itself... People know that there are no guns so they don't have to worry about a homeowner with a shotgun so there's alot less consequence in their mind...

ibesarcasm · October 4th, 2009, 12:11 PM

hence why I said I'll never give up my ANTI-assualt weapons.........
Then can have my assault weapons........
you know...my tank, my stinger missiles, my ICBM's, my long-range first strike Nuclear submarine......... Hell, I'll put them up on E-bay right now!! LMAO!!!
My guns....... never.........

gunthorp · October 4th, 2009, 05:57 PM

I like the defensive anti-assault weapon moniker of ibesarcasm. The "progressives" call illegal immigrants "undocumented workers" and so are their drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists?" A defense lawyer told me that the DA has to work with facts, but he can work with emotion. Maybe it's time we work with emotion against the anti-gunners. Thank you, but I'll keep my lifesaving handguns and my mob defending anti-assault rifles. My battle rifle? No that's my hunting rifle. My sniper rifle? No that's just for long range target shooting.

Full auto is the quickest way to turn money into noise. - Clint Smith

JD · October 6th, 2009, 06:43 PM

Closed for review.

rocky · October 6th, 2009, 10:03 PM

Keep the comments on topic and remember the rules. If you cannot follow the rules points will be awarded and/or you will be shown the door.

ibesarcasm · October 7th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky

Keep the comments on topic and remember the rules. If you cannot follow the rules points will be awarded and/or you will be shown the door.

Thanks Mods.... my apologies...... I did let myself get sidetracked by...um...... well, you read the posts...... glad you’re here to keep us honest!!

puffer · October 7th, 2009, 08:07 PM

Interesting. IMHO, The "concepts" of "Assault Rifle" & "Battle Rifle" are somewhat up to the individual.
In my personal case, I use the terms "Combat Rifle" & Tactical Rifle" depending on the "scenario"
1. Situations where the range is CQ or under 300 yd.s &/or the quarters are restrictive ( urban, brush etc.) = SOCOM16 (7.62 NATO )

The configuration pictured is with a 4x "scout scope" for longer ranges. I also have a "tac sight" for CQ. BUT I prefer the "peep" sights on the gun for both. The sling is a "giles"

The biggest neg., IMHO, of this gun is the ear shattering noise.

( I have a set of "electronic ears" that are carried on the gun. Hope I will have time to acquire them

) The up side is that with the muzzle break, the recovery is FAST & the recoil is sweet.

BTW, I use this gun for hunting also. ( 5 rnd mag & hand loaded rnd.s ( NATO spec w/ silver tip bullets )

2. Situations where longer range is called for = M14

Just my 2 cents worth.

Puffer

C hawk Glock · October 7th, 2009, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puffer

Interesting. IMHO, The "concepts" of "Assault Rifle" & "Battle Rifle" are somewhat up to the individual.
In my personal case, I use the terms "Combat Rifle" & Tactical Rifle" depending on the "scenario"
1. Situations where the range is CQ or under 300 yd.s &/or the quarters are restrictive ( urban, brush etc.) = SOCOM16 (7.62 NATO )

The configuration pictured is with a 4x "scout scope" for longer ranges. I also have a "tac sight" for CQ. BUT I prefer the "peep" sights on the gun for both. The sling is a "giles"

BTW, I use this gun for hunting also. ( 5 rnd mag & hand loaded rnd.s ( NATO spec w/ silver tip bullets )

2. Situations where longer range is called for = M14

Just my 2 cents worth.

Puffer

Puffer,

I figured you bust out the kilt for situation #3

By the way howdy neighbor! Kent is not far at all!

BAC · October 7th, 2009, 11:02 PM

Why is this even an argument? What's so hard about calling them all fighting rifles, or just rifles?

-B

Jcabin · October 13th, 2009, 01:20 AM

thanks for those who actually had real input on the OP's question.
I really learned alot.

Assault rifle and battle rifle are two seperate things with historical literature to prove so. Just because you think an AK which generally can't hit for the average user over 100-150 yards, is NOT a battle rifle. Yes, you can take it into battle, but it's not classified as a battle rifle. It's a short range rifle(100-300 yards) with an intermediate cartridge between a submachine gun and a machine gun, with a detachable mag and select fire.

Several people have cited and further explained the differences, this isn't a debate.

October 4th, 2009, 12:11 PM	#42
ibesarcasm Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 195	hence why I said I'll never give up my ANTI-assualt weapons......... Then can have my assault weapons........ you know...my tank, my stinger missiles, my ICBM's, my long-range first strike Nuclear submarine......... Hell, I'll put them up on E-bay right now!! LMAO!!! My guns....... never......... __________________ Sarcasm - Just one of the many services I provide! Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

October 4th, 2009, 05:57 PM	#43
gunthorp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lake Superior Posts: 1,019	I like the defensive anti-assault weapon moniker of ibesarcasm. The "progressives" call illegal immigrants "undocumented workers" and so are their drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists?" A defense lawyer told me that the DA has to work with facts, but he can work with emotion. Maybe it's time we work with emotion against the anti-gunners. Thank you, but I'll keep my lifesaving handguns and my mob defending anti-assault rifles. My battle rifle? No that's my hunting rifle. My sniper rifle? No that's just for long range target shooting. Full auto is the quickest way to turn money into noise. - Clint Smith __________________ Don't dither. The nick of time comes just before the moment lost.

October 6th, 2009, 06:43 PM	#44
JD Senior Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Central Iowa Posts: 11,639	Closed for review. __________________ Some Things Need to be Addressed... Iowa Carry.ORG: Promoting Weapons Carry Reform in Iowa Forum Customs & Courtesies

October 6th, 2009, 10:03 PM	#45
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 13,074	Keep the comments on topic and remember the rules. If you cannot follow the rules points will be awarded and/or you will be shown the door. __________________ "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson Nemo Me Impune Lacesset Link to my kydex builds:http://rocknloadkydex.blogspot.com/

October 7th, 2009, 11:02 PM	#49
BAC Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,992	Why is this even an argument? What's so hard about calling them all fighting rifles, or just rifles? -B __________________ RIP, Jeff Dorr: 1964 - July 17, 2009. You will be missed. Defensive Carry Search Tips Step 1 - Choose a subforum on right side under "Search in Forum(s)" Step 2 - Type general topic of interest in "Search by Keyword" textbox. Step 3 - Read results and refine/repeat as necessary.

October 13th, 2009, 01:20 AM	#50
Jcabin Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greatest State in The Union, Pennsylvania Posts: 161	thanks for those who actually had real input on the OP's question. I really learned alot. Assault rifle and battle rifle are two seperate things with historical literature to prove so. Just because you think an AK which generally can't hit for the average user over 100-150 yards, is NOT a battle rifle. Yes, you can take it into battle, but it's not classified as a battle rifle. It's a short range rifle(100-300 yards) with an intermediate cartridge between a submachine gun and a machine gun, with a detachable mag and select fire. Several people have cited and further explained the differences, this isn't a debate.

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