Home defense shotgun advice - Page 4

Wasabi · July 6th, 2009, 11:20 PM

Dang retsup,

That's a very nice looking shotty. I really like the all nickel. I'd trade my 18.5" 870 Police for one of those. Maybe I need three shotguns?

gold40 · July 6th, 2009, 11:25 PM

My suggestion is to avoid the short barreled models and get a conventional 12 gauge pump - either Mossberg or Remington.

THEN, take it to your local skeet or trap range and learn to shoot it well at clay birds. Shoot 50 or 100 rounds on three separate days - until you can hit half of the birds thrown.

Many people with HD shotguns really never learn to use the weapon.

gold40

Blackeagle · July 6th, 2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gold40

THEN, take it to your local skeet or trap range and learn to shoot it well at clay birds. Shoot 50 or 100 rounds on three separate days - until you can hit half of the birds thrown.

Many people with HD shotguns really never learn to use the weapon.

I certainly agree that anyone intending to use a shotgun for self-defense needs to learn how to shoot it well, and how to run the gun (particularly important for a shotgun since many of the weapon manipulations can be rather fiddly). However, I don't really think shooting at clays is the best way to do that. Shooting aerial targets is quite different from shooting human assailants at across the room to across the yard distances. It would be better to seek out a shotgun gunfighting course specifically intended to teach using the shotgun for self-defense purposes.

PastorPack · July 7th, 2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by atctimmy

Why? What is so great about a pistol grip that it needs seven exclamation points? This person is looking for advice so please explain.

To the OP: Go with a Remington or a Mossberg. I'm a lefty so I like the safety position on the Mossbergs better.

I'll chime in here on the desireability of the pistol grip (i.e., grip with no butt stock). One of the (few, if not only) limitations of the shotgun for Hd is that due to its length, it can be difficult to present in the close quarters of a home. If you're not convinced of this, try taking your full-length shotty into a hallway and swing it around.

The pistol grip becomes an advantage by shortening the OAL of the weapon. It does have limitations: IMO it is only for shooting from the hip, not sighted shooting.

yankee · July 7th, 2009, 01:48 AM

a buddy of mine is asking me if i would like to buy his mossberg 500 with an 18 inch and i think he said 24 inch barrel together with a case and a few boxes of bird shot he would throw in. even though not interested in the bird shot, i dont hunt this is going to be strickly for HD. what is a fair price for this setup he said it is in great condition always well taken care of. seeing how he takes care of his tools at work i trust he has taken very good care of it.

BamaSteve · July 7th, 2009, 02:36 AM

I have a quick question to put out there for you guys since it's kind of come up. Is it possible to change out the barrels of both the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500?

BikerRN · July 7th, 2009, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TX-JB

I also have a 20 ga. Stoeger coach gun that my wife keeps on her side of the bed.

Mine is in 12 Guage.

I went with the 870 because both agencies I have worked for have issued the 870. If that was not a concern of mine, then I would probably select the 870.

Can you tell? I really like the 870.

If I wanted an autoloading shotgun I'd probably go with the FN or Winchester 1300, but that's just me.

Biker

Tom357 · July 7th, 2009, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaSteve

I have a quick question to put out there for you guys since it's kind of come up. Is it possible to change out the barrels of both the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500?

It's possible with the Benelli Supernova. Complete in under 1 minute.

TSKnight · July 7th, 2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by yankee

a buddy of mine is asking me if i would like to buy his mossberg 500 with an 18 inch and i think he said 24 inch barrel together with a case and a few boxes of bird shot he would throw in. even though not interested in the bird shot, i dont hunt this is going to be strickly for HD. what is a fair price for this setup he said it is in great condition always well taken care of. seeing how he takes care of his tools at work i trust he has taken very good care of it.

Hi Yankee,

I just picked up a Brand New 12g Mossberg 500 full synthetic stock(black) 28" and 24" bbl for $180, a used 18.5" bbl for $35 and a Butler Creek folding stock for $15 at an auction a few weeks ago.
Not sure what I would give for ammo, the last I bought was a case of Federal 00Buck for $70 about a year ago.

Hope this helps

dukalmighty · July 7th, 2009, 10:14 AM

I've shot slugs out of an Open cylinder 18.5" bbl and at home defense ranges they all hit COM,I also shot them out of a 14.5"benelli semi auto Secret Service trade in and that thing was deadon at 25 yards

July 6th, 2009, 11:20 PM	#31
Wasabi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lutz, FL Posts: 1,026	Dang retsup, That's a very nice looking shotty. I really like the all nickel. I'd trade my 18.5" 870 Police for one of those. Maybe I need three shotguns? __________________ "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

July 7th, 2009, 01:48 AM	#35
yankee New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: central texas Posts: 10	a buddy of mine is asking me if i would like to buy his mossberg 500 with an 18 inch and i think he said 24 inch barrel together with a case and a few boxes of bird shot he would throw in. even though not interested in the bird shot, i dont hunt this is going to be strickly for HD. what is a fair price for this setup he said it is in great condition always well taken care of. seeing how he takes care of his tools at work i trust he has taken very good care of it. __________________ A citizen who shirks his duty to contribute to the security of his community is little better than the criminal who threatens it. Taurus PT1911AR, SA XD .40c S&W M&P 9c, Kel Tec P3at

July 7th, 2009, 02:36 AM	#36
BamaSteve Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 663	I have a quick question to put out there for you guys since it's kind of come up. Is it possible to change out the barrels of both the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500? __________________ Smith & Wesson M&P9cCrossbreed Supertuck EDC Light:Nitecore EX10 R2 EDC Knife:Remington Sportsman Series “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” --Thomas Jefferson 1816

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dukalmighty VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Posts: 6,383	I've shot slugs out of an Open cylinder 18.5" bbl and at home defense ranges they all hit COM,I also shot them out of a 14.5"benelli semi auto Secret Service trade in and that thing was deadon at 25 yards __________________ I like Poetry,Long Walks On The Beach,And Poking Dead Things With A Stick

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July 6th, 2009, 11:25 PM	#32
gold40 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 70	My suggestion is to avoid the short barreled models and get a conventional 12 gauge pump - either Mossberg or Remington. THEN, take it to your local skeet or trap range and learn to shoot it well at clay birds. Shoot 50 or 100 rounds on three separate days - until you can hit half of the birds thrown. Many people with HD shotguns really never learn to use the weapon. gold40