My new carbine - Page 3

FHBrumb · July 10th, 2009, 07:40 PM

It was given to my Greatgrandfather to settle a debt many decades ago. He gave it to my Dad, my Dad gave it to me. It hung on my Dad's gun rack for as long as I can remember. I once asked him could I go shoot it, and he told me to have at it. It didn't cycle reliably, but he never once took it off the wall. For all he knew, it had just run through 1,000 rounds, when it was given over to our family. after I shot it, and it did so poorly, I didn't clean it either. It might just be gummed up with 50 years or crap.

At one time, I'm certain it was very good looking. Now, it needs to be stripped, and get functional. I'd likely sell the stock on GB. Seriously, decent walnut, including the handguard. A few nics and sctraches...

Maybe I'll sell the whole darn rifle, and buy a regular one. Maybe someone out there really wants a gold plated M-1 Carbine... I dunno, could happen...

shooterX · July 11th, 2009, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FHBrumb

It was given to my Greatgrandfather to settle a debt many decades ago. He gave it to my Dad, my Dad gave it to me. It hung on my Dad's gun rack for as long as I can remember. I once asked him could I go shoot it, and he told me to have at it. It didn't cycle reliably, but he never once took it off the wall. For all he knew, it had just run through 1,000 rounds, when it was given over to our family. after I shot it, and it did so poorly, I didn't clean it either. It might just be gummed up with 50 years or crap.

At one time, I'm certain it was very good looking. Now, it needs to be stripped, and get functional. I'd likely sell the stock on GB. Seriously, decent walnut, including the handguard. A few nics and sctraches...

Maybe I'll sell the whole darn rifle, and buy a regular one. Maybe someone out there really wants a gold plated M-1 Carbine... I dunno, could happen...

You need to post a picture of your M1, I have to see this.

FHBrumb · July 11th, 2009, 07:48 AM

I'm on my way out for work, but these give the idea...

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine004.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine003.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine002.jpg

My guess is that you thought I was spoofin' ya?

shooterX · July 11th, 2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FHBrumb

I'm on my way out for work, but these give the idea...

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine004.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine003.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine002.jpg

My guess is that you thought I was spoofin' ya?

No I believed you, just wanted to see it, thanks.

FHBrumb · July 11th, 2009, 06:40 PM

I'm going to clean it up real well tonight. If it shoots OK, I'll see about getting it back to a more "manly" color. This is a little too much BLING for my taste.

FHBrumb · July 11th, 2009, 07:24 PM

Learning...

Universal Firearms Corp.

30 M-1 BG round American Blk Walnut 24k gold plated yes no M-1 BB, gold "presentation" name plate

Post 1966 it seems...

FHBrumb · July 12th, 2009, 12:48 AM

I stripped the rifle as far as I could, and cleaned it. There was some serious snot inside this rifle. I used typical gun cleaning techniques followed by a dousing of Gunscrubber to remove said snot. Whether it gets better or not, is yet to be seen. Hand cycling look promising, but that's no real indicator of what happens at the firingline...

I can also say that the trigger pull leaves much to be desired.

cvhoss · July 15th, 2009, 03:19 PM

FHBrumb -- make sure you read about the safety issues concerning the Universal carbines. They seem to have a rather nasty habit of firing out of battery. Make sure you always wear good safety glasses while shooting it as a cartridge that generates 40,000 psi operating pressures firing out of battery would not be a fun experience. A couple of links for you:

Universal M1 Carbine Production History

CMP Discussion Forum - CMP Help: Stock Cleaning, Ammo, Mag ID & Accuracy
(the first post is very long but well worth reading. In depth description of the out of battery problem about halfway through the post)

shooterX -- congratulations on your new AO carbine. I've been wanting one of those ever since my shooting buddy bought one but haven't been able to convince myself to break loose that much cash ($746.00 from Bud's Gun Shop). I just got a good buy on an Iver Johnson (won't hijack your thread with details/photos) but I'm sure it's not on the same caliber as the AO carbine.

Don't know how you're fixed for ammo, but here's a couple I see in stock:

Graf & Sons - WOLF AMMO 30M1 110gr FMJ POLYFORMANCE 50/bx 20/cs
(I don't care for steel case ammo, but you may not have a problem with it)

AMM-601 - Ammo .30 Carbine BVAC 110 Grain FMJ 50 Round Box Made in USA using all new components
(I hate pointing to CTD because their prices are so high -- don't know anything about this ammo brand)

Have fun.

Hoss

FHBrumb · July 15th, 2009, 04:36 PM

I read a shorter iteration of that information elsewhere. Mine is of the first generation, and likely contains many USGI parts. My serial number starts with 92. Somewhere between 93 and 10something, the second generation starts, and most of the troubles were generation 3.

When I cleaned mine up, I slowly worked the action to see if I could indice a situation where the bolt didn't close. I couldn't, on a clean rifle. Certainly burned powder and shavings of brass would make things worse pretty quickly.

I'll spend some time considering how much I like shooting it. Likely not enough.

Maybe I could sell it to a non-shooter type, and get an AO. This rifle is light as a feather, and shoots pretty well...

shooterX · July 20th, 2009, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvhoss

FHBrumb -- make sure you read about the safety issues concerning the Universal carbines. They seem to have a rather nasty habit of firing out of battery. Make sure you always wear good safety glasses while shooting it as a cartridge that generates 40,000 psi operating pressures firing out of battery would not be a fun experience. A couple of links for you:

Universal M1 Carbine Production History

CMP Discussion Forum - CMP Help: Stock Cleaning, Ammo, Mag ID & Accuracy
(the first post is very long but well worth reading. In depth description of the out of battery problem about halfway through the post)

shooterX -- congratulations on your new AO carbine. I've been wanting one of those ever since my shooting buddy bought one but haven't been able to convince myself to break loose that much cash ($746.00 from Bud's Gun Shop). I just got a good buy on an Iver Johnson (won't hijack your thread with details/photos) but I'm sure it's not on the same caliber as the AO carbine.

Don't know how you're fixed for ammo, but here's a couple I see in stock:

Graf & Sons - WOLF AMMO 30M1 110gr FMJ POLYFORMANCE 50/bx 20/cs
(I don't care for steel case ammo, but you may not have a problem with it)

AMM-601 - Ammo .30 Carbine BVAC 110 Grain FMJ 50 Round Box Made in USA using all new components
(I hate pointing to CTD because their prices are so high -- don't know anything about this ammo brand)

Have fun.

Hoss

Thanks for the ammo links Hoss. I actually found a few hundred rounds of Remington FMJ at Bass Pro. I also found two boxes of the Corbon DPX in .30 carbine, have more on backorder. I also picked up about 100 rounds of Federal JSP for it, but have read some so so things about this load. I saw your thread, like it very much.

July 10th, 2009, 07:40 PM	#21
FHBrumb Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, where else? Posts: 337	It was given to my Greatgrandfather to settle a debt many decades ago. He gave it to my Dad, my Dad gave it to me. It hung on my Dad's gun rack for as long as I can remember. I once asked him could I go shoot it, and he told me to have at it. It didn't cycle reliably, but he never once took it off the wall. For all he knew, it had just run through 1,000 rounds, when it was given over to our family. after I shot it, and it did so poorly, I didn't clean it either. It might just be gummed up with 50 years or crap. At one time, I'm certain it was very good looking. Now, it needs to be stripped, and get functional. I'd likely sell the stock on GB. Seriously, decent walnut, including the handguard. A few nics and sctraches... Maybe I'll sell the whole darn rifle, and buy a regular one. Maybe someone out there really wants a gold plated M-1 Carbine... I dunno, could happen... __________________ Amendment XIV Section 1. ...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

July 11th, 2009, 07:48 AM	#23
FHBrumb Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, where else? Posts: 337	I'm on my way out for work, but these give the idea... http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine004.jpg http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine003.jpg http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/q...Carbine002.jpg My guess is that you thought I was spoofin' ya? __________________ Amendment XIV Section 1. ...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

July 11th, 2009, 06:40 PM	#25
FHBrumb Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, where else? Posts: 337	I'm going to clean it up real well tonight. If it shoots OK, I'll see about getting it back to a more "manly" color. This is a little too much BLING for my taste. __________________ Amendment XIV Section 1. ...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

July 11th, 2009, 07:24 PM	#26
FHBrumb Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, where else? Posts: 337	Learning... Universal Firearms Corp. 30 M-1 BG round American Blk Walnut 24k gold plated yes no M-1 BB, gold "presentation" name plate Post 1966 it seems... __________________ Amendment XIV Section 1. ...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

July 12th, 2009, 12:48 AM	#27
FHBrumb Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, where else? Posts: 337	I stripped the rifle as far as I could, and cleaned it. There was some serious snot inside this rifle. I used typical gun cleaning techniques followed by a dousing of Gunscrubber to remove said snot. Whether it gets better or not, is yet to be seen. Hand cycling look promising, but that's no real indicator of what happens at the firingline... I can also say that the trigger pull leaves much to be desired. __________________ Amendment XIV Section 1. ...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

July 15th, 2009, 03:19 PM	#28
cvhoss Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,793	FHBrumb -- make sure you read about the safety issues concerning the Universal carbines. They seem to have a rather nasty habit of firing out of battery. Make sure you always wear good safety glasses while shooting it as a cartridge that generates 40,000 psi operating pressures firing out of battery would not be a fun experience. A couple of links for you: Universal M1 Carbine Production History CMP Discussion Forum - CMP Help: Stock Cleaning, Ammo, Mag ID & Accuracy (the first post is very long but well worth reading. In depth description of the out of battery problem about halfway through the post) shooterX -- congratulations on your new AO carbine. I've been wanting one of those ever since my shooting buddy bought one but haven't been able to convince myself to break loose that much cash ($746.00 from Bud's Gun Shop). I just got a good buy on an Iver Johnson (won't hijack your thread with details/photos) but I'm sure it's not on the same caliber as the AO carbine. Don't know how you're fixed for ammo, but here's a couple I see in stock: Graf & Sons - WOLF AMMO 30M1 110gr FMJ POLYFORMANCE 50/bx 20/cs (I don't care for steel case ammo, but you may not have a problem with it) AMM-601 - Ammo .30 Carbine BVAC 110 Grain FMJ 50 Round Box Made in USA using all new components (I hate pointing to CTD because their prices are so high -- don't know anything about this ammo brand) Have fun. Hoss __________________ I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I always was Sig 239 SAS 40 S&W / Sig 239 9mm / Kahr PM-9 / Walther PPS .40 / Sig P-245 / Ruger LCP Beretta Tomcat / Walther PPK / BDA 380 / Taurus 85 / Kel-Tec PF-9 / Am. Derringer 357 NRA Life Member My Web Site

July 15th, 2009, 04:36 PM	#29
FHBrumb Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, where else? Posts: 337	I read a shorter iteration of that information elsewhere. Mine is of the first generation, and likely contains many USGI parts. My serial number starts with 92. Somewhere between 93 and 10something, the second generation starts, and most of the troubles were generation 3. When I cleaned mine up, I slowly worked the action to see if I could indice a situation where the bolt didn't close. I couldn't, on a clean rifle. Certainly burned powder and shavings of brass would make things worse pretty quickly. I'll spend some time considering how much I like shooting it. Likely not enough. Maybe I could sell it to a non-shooter type, and get an AO. This rifle is light as a feather, and shoots pretty well... __________________ Amendment XIV Section 1. ...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

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