How accurate should it be

yoshi · March 22nd, 2006, 02:23 PM

I have a Russian SKS with the numbers matching, except someone replaced the reciever housing with one of those scope mounts (see pictures)

Basically using a Red-Dot at 50 ft. it sprays a non-sensical array of bullets in 12" diameter, At 50 yds I am lucky to get more than one in 10 on an 18"x18" target. I have been trying to get an original reciever cover so I can try the Iron sights (see second pic) My thought is that the reciever housing itself is moving - but maybe I should expect this from an old SKS.

It could be my shooting I guess, cause I am no trained marksman but my only other rifle is a 10/22 and I can shoot groups with that and only iron sights at 50 and 100 yds. I'm kind of fed up with this rifle after wasting money on different scopes, lots of different ammo etc...

Should I just get rid of it?

roadrash · March 22nd, 2006, 02:58 PM

My Norinco SKS groups about 4"-6" MOA with irons,It is probably your mount shifting around.How does your muzzle crown look,Is it dinged up at all?

P95Carry · March 22nd, 2006, 03:06 PM

I have a red dot on my Norinco and have found the receiver cover mount is a bit less than solid - however it does appear to always settle back to same position and so groups are acceptable.

Sure - not stellar accuracy but good for steel plate at 100 yds. I have considered drilling and tapping the front right of the mount to place a small set screw - which could then take up the slack and then be Loctited.

Does seem like yours may be too sloppy and yeah - worth checking that crowning is not damaged, tho at 50 yards even that shouldn't be too noticeable in effect.

paknheat · March 22nd, 2006, 03:11 PM

I had a simular problem with a Yugo model, I did get a new rear housing and it improved quite a bit. It seemed that the old one was damaged by the "engineer" who put the scope mount on. I also had the trigger improved a bit by a gunsmith. All in all it a decent little shooter now. none of the work done to improve it was expensive either. I would have your sks inspected by a gunsmith before you get rid of it . A good Russian sks is getting harder to find these days. By the way, i don't have a scope on mine anymore. I get good accuracy with the iron sights set on the 300 meter setting for 100yd groupings. Hope this helps you out.

yoshi · March 22nd, 2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadrash

Is it dinged up at all?

Thats the dangerous end - The rifling does look worn also and they obviously used corrosive ammo in this at some point.
Do any of you know where to get a plain reciever cover (without the mount) all I can find is mount covers identical to what you find in Cheaper than Dirt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paknheat

I would have your sks inspected by a gunsmith before you get rid of it

Also I took it to the local gunstore (where I bought it incidentally) and they have a gunsmith - they refused to look at it - Apparently AKs and SKSs are throw away guns. Still looking for someone around here that I can count on.

P95Carry - Nice gun

P95Carry · March 22nd, 2006, 04:06 PM

yoshi - well crown does not look dinged but sure ain't the prettiest muzzle I ever saw!!! I have a beat up Yugo that probably is in same category but it's hidden by that grenade launcher thingie!!!

I am sure a std cover must be available - CDNN I am thinking has parts kits but not sure - and have seen other fliers with lots of old stuff - just cannot remember anything specific right now.

roadrash · March 22nd, 2006, 04:17 PM

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roadrash · March 22nd, 2006, 04:18 PM

Hate to tell ya bro,but that bore is shot!Here is a photo of the muzzle of my SKS,Notice the smooth crown and the rifling that is present.[IMG]

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Stick a live round, bullet first into the end of the muzzle,I would be willing to bet you can insert it till it bottoms out on the mouth of the case!

OldDawg · March 22nd, 2006, 05:07 PM

Heres a link to all the SKS parts you need....

they have the reciever cover under reciever parts it is like 9.00

http://www.globaltrades.com/sks_parts_general.html

yoshi · March 22nd, 2006, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadrash

Hate to tell ya bro,but that bore is shot!
...
Stick a live round, bullet first into the end of the muzzle,I would be willing to bet you can insert it till it bottoms out on the mouth of the case!

I just tried what you suggest, the case is sitting about 1mm from the end of the barrel, but it does "wobble" side to side in one direction.
As for the bore being shot, I'm willing to accept that if it is, thats why I want to know if I should just get rid of it.

OldDawg - thanks for the link

March 22nd, 2006, 02:23 PM	#1
yoshi Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Midcoast, Maine Posts: 115	How accurate should it be I have a Russian SKS with the numbers matching, except someone replaced the reciever housing with one of those scope mounts (see pictures) Basically using a Red-Dot at 50 ft. it sprays a non-sensical array of bullets in 12" diameter, At 50 yds I am lucky to get more than one in 10 on an 18"x18" target. I have been trying to get an original reciever cover so I can try the Iron sights (see second pic) My thought is that the reciever housing itself is moving - but maybe I should expect this from an old SKS. It could be my shooting I guess, cause I am no trained marksman but my only other rifle is a 10/22 and I can shoot groups with that and only iron sights at 50 and 100 yds. I'm kind of fed up with this rifle after wasting money on different scopes, lots of different ammo etc... Should I just get rid of it? __________________ Live Free or Die

March 22nd, 2006, 03:06 PM	#3
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,339	I have a red dot on my Norinco and have found the receiver cover mount is a bit less than solid - however it does appear to always settle back to same position and so groups are acceptable. Sure - not stellar accuracy but good for steel plate at 100 yds. I have considered drilling and tapping the front right of the mount to place a small set screw - which could then take up the slack and then be Loctited. Does seem like yours may be too sloppy and yeah - worth checking that crowning is not damaged, tho at 50 yards even that shouldn't be too noticeable in effect. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

March 22nd, 2006, 04:06 PM	#6
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,339	yoshi - well crown does not look dinged but sure ain't the prettiest muzzle I ever saw!!! I have a beat up Yugo that probably is in same category but it's hidden by that grenade launcher thingie!!! I am sure a std cover must be available - CDNN I am thinking has parts kits but not sure - and have seen other fliers with lots of old stuff - just cannot remember anything specific right now. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

March 22nd, 2006, 04:18 PM	#8
roadrash Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western New York Posts: 99	Hate to tell ya bro,but that bore is shot!Here is a photo of the muzzle of my SKS,Notice the smooth crown and the rifling that is present.[IMG][/IMG] Stick a live round, bullet first into the end of the muzzle,I would be willing to bet you can insert it till it bottoms out on the mouth of the case!

March 22nd, 2006, 05:07 PM	#9
OldDawg Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spokane, Wa Posts: 70	Heres a link to all the SKS parts you need.... they have the reciever cover under reciever parts it is like 9.00 http://www.globaltrades.com/sks_parts_general.html __________________ Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.

March 22nd, 2006, 02:58 PM	#2
roadrash Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western New York Posts: 99	My Norinco SKS groups about 4"-6" MOA with irons,It is probably your mount shifting around.How does your muzzle crown look,Is it dinged up at all?

March 22nd, 2006, 03:11 PM	#4
paknheat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 248	I had a simular problem with a Yugo model, I did get a new rear housing and it improved quite a bit. It seemed that the old one was damaged by the "engineer" who put the scope mount on. I also had the trigger improved a bit by a gunsmith. All in all it a decent little shooter now. none of the work done to improve it was expensive either. I would have your sks inspected by a gunsmith before you get rid of it . A good Russian sks is getting harder to find these days. By the way, i don't have a scope on mine anymore. I get good accuracy with the iron sights set on the 300 meter setting for 100yd groupings. Hope this helps you out.

March 22nd, 2006, 04:17 PM	#7
roadrash Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western New York Posts: 99	double

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