best defensive rifle ?" - Page 4

jbum · July 28th, 2009, 08:40 PM

Throw a hollow point slug in the Mossy that will do it.

Delucas · July 28th, 2009, 09:20 PM

I have an AR15 and a PS90; I prefer the PS90 for HD.

Though I would like a larger caliber rifle like the SOCOM II.

chiefrcd · July 29th, 2009, 12:02 AM

Couple of Pics of my 66 year old PMHDR ( Poor Mans Home Defense Rifle). She's a real sweet shooter....for the budget minded.

mr surveyor · July 29th, 2009, 01:20 AM

for "defense", I figure my CX4 Storm in the lowly 9mm will handle my needs. With the bottom rail light and ATN heads up optics, it's capable of "minute of pie-plate" at 50 yards under most any conditions. Anything outside of that would be outside my property boundaries. The #2 for defense, and the #1 "go-to" rifle for me is my old Marlin 336. You just can't beat the old lever guns for all around versatility. My other rifles are for fun.

surv

BikerRN · July 29th, 2009, 03:56 AM

If it's a true "head for the hills" weapon then you should consider availability of parts and spare ammo.

For that reason alone I would look to the AR. I say this, not as an AR fan, but rather someone that recognizes them for what they are. IMO there are better rifles, and ones I enjoy shooting more, but the AR is pretty hard to beat.

I finally broke down and bought my first AR recently. Out to 100 Yards I prefer a shotgun. I'm working on zeroing my AR at 200 Yards, if that tells you anything.

The availability of parts and ammo, as well as the number of people that have AR's is something to keep in mind if you have to head for the hills.

Biker

10thmtn · July 29th, 2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rexster

I would avoid a Mini-30! John Farnam recommends against them, even though he recommends the Mini-14, within its limitations. John Farnam was in early on the teaching of rifles for civilian self-defense, and one thing about him is that he is not bashful about criticizing inferior products. See his books and website for more.

I like the ergonomics of the Mini-14 over the AR15, by FAR. Of course, this is a personal thing. I have an AR15, formerly owned two others, and have two Mini-14s. Each has its place in this world. I see the AR15 as a superior long-range tool, and the Mini as the better close-range and general utility rifle, for MY purposes. Because of this view, my AR15 is an HBAR. I sold my shorter AR15 carbines. If I buy another AR15, it will likely be what is generally known as an SPR or DMR.

Did a quick search, and it seems the issues with the Mini 30 are magazine and Russian steel-cased ammo related. Ruger does not make a "high cap" mag for the Mini 30, so you need to do some research to find reliable aftermarket ones. My understanding is that the Russian steel-cased ammo is hard on the Ruger firing pin as well - I would use US commercial 7.62 x 39.

Of course, you could just get an SKS (if you don't mind the 10-rd en bloc clip) or an AK (prices lately are just crazy for what they are).

Personally, I had a Saiga AK in .308 - was a piece of junk. Had trigger reset issues, and stovepipe jams. Aftermarket mags did not fit. Sold it at a loss. Will keep my shottie and Mini 14.

chrise2004 · July 29th, 2009, 11:14 AM

AR-15 done deal. It easily reaches your 100 yds at great accuracy and also has the high round mags you want.

cbp210 · July 30th, 2009, 02:20 AM

I would say get an AR 6.8 rifle.

July 28th, 2009, 08:40 PM	#31
jbum Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dandridge Tennessee Posts: 503	Throw a hollow point slug in the Mossy that will do it. __________________ PT145 MIL PRO MOSSBERG 500 CRUISER S&W 638 THUNDER .380 NRA MEMBER

July 28th, 2009, 09:20 PM	#32
Delucas Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Campobello, SC Posts: 61	I have an AR15 and a PS90; I prefer the PS90 for HD. Though I would like a larger caliber rifle like the SOCOM II. __________________ Grassroots SC, NRA, SC CWP, NH NR-PRL

July 29th, 2009, 12:02 AM	#33
chiefrcd Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 130	Couple of Pics of my 66 year old PMHDR ( Poor Mans Home Defense Rifle). She's a real sweet shooter....for the budget minded. __________________ Have Gun ~ Will Carry S-Safety M-Motivation A-Awareness R-Responsibility T-Training

July 29th, 2009, 03:56 AM	#35
BikerRN VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: State of Discombobulation Posts: 3,774	If it's a true "head for the hills" weapon then you should consider availability of parts and spare ammo. For that reason alone I would look to the AR. I say this, not as an AR fan, but rather someone that recognizes them for what they are. IMO there are better rifles, and ones I enjoy shooting more, but the AR is pretty hard to beat. I finally broke down and bought my first AR recently. Out to 100 Yards I prefer a shotgun. I'm working on zeroing my AR at 200 Yards, if that tells you anything. The availability of parts and ammo, as well as the number of people that have AR's is something to keep in mind if you have to head for the hills. Biker __________________ If I knew I was going to get in to a gunfight I most ceratinly wouln't bring a handgun or two, and I don't know any smart person that does.

July 29th, 2009, 11:14 AM	#37
chrise2004 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern IL Posts: 603	AR-15 done deal. It easily reaches your 100 yds at great accuracy and also has the high round mags you want. __________________ Glock 27,Hi-Point .380, S&W 3913 NRA Member/Supporter "Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem." - President Ronald Reagan

July 29th, 2009, 01:20 AM	#34
mr surveyor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas, South of the Sabine Posts: 632	for "defense", I figure my CX4 Storm in the lowly 9mm will handle my needs. With the bottom rail light and ATN heads up optics, it's capable of "minute of pie-plate" at 50 yards under most any conditions. Anything outside of that would be outside my property boundaries. The #2 for defense, and the #1 "go-to" rifle for me is my old Marlin 336. You just can't beat the old lever guns for all around versatility. My other rifles are for fun. surv

July 30th, 2009, 02:20 AM	#38
cbp210 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Humble, TX Posts: 131	I would say get an AR 6.8 rifle.

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