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Old August 1st, 2009, 02:32 PM   #11
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Got a 512 AA model on my AK and I have no complaints, works great and target acquisition is very quick.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 02:48 PM   #12
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Be prepared to spend about $500 buck. If there is a gun show near you soon. Look at some of the other options. You can also check web sites for used ones. The eo tech's , ACOG's and Aimpoints are combat grade, so if they've been on home defense guns, they should be ok, used.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 11:06 PM   #13
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I don't want anything that has glass in it or requires batteries on my AK-47. The great virtue of an AK is that it is nearly indestructable, and relatively fragile sights conprimise that indestructability. At the ranges where I expect to deploy that AK, I have no problem with the iron sights. I did open up the notch in the rear sight which makes picking up the sight picture quicker, particularly in poor light.

On a good AR-15, I do think that optics of some kind are required to use the accuracy of the platform to best advantage. Since the gun requires more careful treatment than the AK-47, the vulnerability of optics is less of an issue.

With reguard to magnification, I have shot running game at powderburn ranges with a 2 1/2 power scope, and never felt it was too much. I have also shot game at 300+ yards with that same scope, and felt that it was about at it's limit of usefulness.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 11:45 PM   #14
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I either want a C-more or an Eotech 512.... If you are using it to fight, you really only need something zeroed to 100yds.

I used to have an old DPMS with a C-more I zeroed at 100 yds, but hit all the way out to 200 all the time during three gun matches......

Bottom line - Keep it as simple as possible......
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Old August 2nd, 2009, 12:17 AM   #15
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What optics on your defense rifle?
EOTech 553.
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I have an Aimpoint Comp M4 on my defensive rifle. I like it - I'm keeping it.

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Old August 2nd, 2009, 01:18 AM   #17
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Im all about the red dot. And aim point is what i had on my m16 in the desert and it served me well.It took AA and i never had to replace the battery once the whole year. I would even forget to turn it off sometimes and it would be on for hours at a time. And, its quick to get a sight picture close range, or u can pick off 300m targets with it to!
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What optics on your defense rifle?
Nice answers thus far. Personally, I like my AK-47 for the role, and it remains without optics for good reasons.
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I dont have a defensive rifle yet. Im trying to be good enough for santa to bring me one. When i get it i think ill go with the EOTECH. I saw one at a gun show and liked it alot.
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In the LEO tactical application, the EOTech's have become a necessary addition to subguns, shotguns and rifles. Failure to add them put's the operator behind the curve and could be seen as a liability. They're that good.
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