Hi Point 995 TS 9mm carbine Pros & Cons ? - Page 3

gunthorp · October 19th, 2009, 11:54 PM

You still have room in your safe? It's high time.

mr surveyor · October 20th, 2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 10thmtn

Actually, the pistol round may have more risk of overpenetration than the .223 rifle. The lighter weight .223/5.56 bullets (55-60 gr or so) tend to decelerate so violently (especially JHPs) that they tumble and fragment into small pieces. 9mm FMJ will likely penetrate more.

For defensive purposes with a pistol caliber carbine, you need to do some research into the bullets you are using. When driven at higher velocities by the longer carbine barrel, some JHPs can expand too quickly and "explode," giving you penetration that is too shallow and doesn't reach the vitals.

Just something to keep in mind.

I've been thinking of a Sub 2000, since you can get one that takes Glock 19 mags. Hmmmm.....

thinking of a KelTec????

welcome to the borg... prepare to be assimilated

surv

10thmtn · October 20th, 2009, 12:41 PM

Indeed!

My thinking is that my wife (petite) would have an easier time with a Sub 2000 (recoil) than my 870 shotgun or even my Mini 14.

Plus, much cheaper to shoot, mags would be compatible with my handguns, and I don't have many places to shoot at a longer range anyway...so a pistol caliber carbine starts to make some sense.

I'd like to see one one in person, though, before I plunk the money down on one.

C hawk Glock · October 20th, 2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 10thmtn

Indeed!

My thinking is that my wife (petite) would have an easier time with a Sub 2000 (recoil) than my 870 shotgun or even my Mini 14.

Plus, much cheaper to shoot, mags would be compatible with my handguns, and I don't have many places to shoot at a longer range anyway...so a pistol caliber carbine starts to make some sense.

I'd like to see one one in person, though, before I plunk the money down on one.

Why do you need to see one in person? You already know they are ugly! haha....... Sorry guys, but they are...

I have heard good things about them though....

10thmtn · October 20th, 2009, 01:32 PM

Maybe I should clarify...I want to handle/fondle one before I buy...

As far as ugly goes...so are my Glocks...gotta love 'em, though!

Ape · October 20th, 2009, 01:58 PM

I didn't see anyone mention the fact that the new TS model also has LRHO now. And the 300 price tag is a bit steep. I see them regularly for closer to 200.

And I wont even get into how ALL of my Hi Points are as reliable as any of my higher end guns. ;)

Stetson · October 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM

I'd rather have a marlin camp gun in 9mm or 45 acp but they are hard to find and pricey when you do. I've come across high points with optics for $265 your
choice of 9mm or 45acp.This would be the perfect truck carbine for close up.
You can't find any cheap SKS anymore so this is it.

chrise2004 · October 20th, 2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenman

I just saw the new Hi Point 9mm carbine TS or target model at Dunhams Sports, maybe I'm easily impressed but I was "Pitchin Tent" , after a couple minutes of handling (caressing,fondling etc) it at the firearms counter. They still are a little ruff looking but, I think I might need one. I would appreciate any input on this weapon. Dunhams had a sticker price of $325 on it, but I'm sure it can be had at a better price, and I just happen to have an open slot in my weapon safe

i don't have first had experience with the carbine but i have one of their .380 pistols and it's a decent gun, true it isn't very pretty and it's heavy but it works. I wouldn't trust my life to it but it is fun to shoot.

As a whole they're a great company with great 1 on 1 service (i had to send in my pistol for a slide issue and they fixed it and sent back with 2 mags for the inconvenience with a handwritten note, pretty nice). They just don't have the quality checks right now but they're moving in the right direction.

From the prices other guys are saying they got one for if you got it within those prices it'd be a fun gun to own just not something i would use for person protection.

Just my $.02

Lewis128 · October 20th, 2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 10thmtn

As far as ugly goes...so are my Glocks...gotta love 'em, though!

Hey now! Them's fightin' words...

Glocks aren't ugly, they just don't spend time and $$ on pointless aesthetics like all the 1911 knock-offs... (that should stir up some)

<< that would be me getting chewed out by 1911 fans.

As for Hi-points, a friend had the .45. Only negative I can say is I didn't like the safety switch.

Edit: I pick up my .357 EAA Windicator from layaway next week. Now if Hi-point comes out with a .357 carbine...

digitalexplr · October 20th, 2009, 02:42 PM

The 995's are an absolute blast (pun intended) to shoot. They are inexpensive, eat whatever you feed them and like a Timex, they take a licking and keep on ticking.

If you do have a problem, Hi-Point will fix it - FREE. They have the best lifetime gaurantee out there.

I sold mine recently simply because there was something else I need the money for.

That price seems on the high side, but lately even being able to find one has been difficult.

October 19th, 2009, 11:54 PM	#21
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October 20th, 2009, 12:41 PM	#23
10thmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 666	Indeed! My thinking is that my wife (petite) would have an easier time with a Sub 2000 (recoil) than my 870 shotgun or even my Mini 14. Plus, much cheaper to shoot, mags would be compatible with my handguns, and I don't have many places to shoot at a longer range anyway...so a pistol caliber carbine starts to make some sense. I'd like to see one one in person, though, before I plunk the money down on one. __________________ The People ARE the Militia, and have a DUTY (not just a right) to be both armed and proficient in the use of said arms. Ex-Army officer; Hurricane Andrew Relief, FL, 1992; Operation Restore Hope, Somalia, 1993 NRA Life Member; Range Safety Officer Glock 26, CT Laserguard, Smartcarry

October 20th, 2009, 01:32 PM	#25
10thmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 666	Maybe I should clarify...I want to handle/fondle one before I buy... As far as ugly goes...so are my Glocks...gotta love 'em, though! __________________ The People ARE the Militia, and have a DUTY (not just a right) to be both armed and proficient in the use of said arms. Ex-Army officer; Hurricane Andrew Relief, FL, 1992; Operation Restore Hope, Somalia, 1993 NRA Life Member; Range Safety Officer Glock 26, CT Laserguard, Smartcarry

October 20th, 2009, 02:42 PM	#30
digitalexplr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Jefferson City, MO Posts: 658	The 995's are an absolute blast (pun intended) to shoot. They are inexpensive, eat whatever you feed them and like a Timex, they take a licking and keep on ticking. If you do have a problem, Hi-Point will fix it - FREE. They have the best lifetime gaurantee out there. I sold mine recently simply because there was something else I need the money for. That price seems on the high side, but lately even being able to find one has been difficult. __________________ XD9sc XD40 Service Mossberg 590a1 NRA Life Member

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October 20th, 2009, 01:58 PM	#26
Ape Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 103	I didn't see anyone mention the fact that the new TS model also has LRHO now. And the 300 price tag is a bit steep. I see them regularly for closer to 200. And I wont even get into how ALL of my Hi Points are as reliable as any of my higher end guns. ;)

October 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM	#27
Stetson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Augusta,Maine Posts: 1,155	I'd rather have a marlin camp gun in 9mm or 45 acp but they are hard to find and pricey when you do. I've come across high points with optics for $265 your choice of 9mm or 45acp.This would be the perfect truck carbine for close up. You can't find any cheap SKS anymore so this is it.