C hawk Glock

Totally agree with you! haha

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10thmnt

I think you will get a real kick out of the KT Sub2K. I had a real weak moment many years ago and traded my S2K Beretta (9m) grip for a P32 for my wife. I shoulda just shelled out the cash at the time and kept the Sub2000. Funny thing, when I bought it used I happened to be digging through the boxes of holsters and stuff in the shop, and lo and behold I dug out a rectangular fake leather "gun rag" that was about 18"'x10"....I have no idea what it was made for... the folded Subbie fit into it perfectly. The whole thing, with a couple of loaded mags, would fit in most any crevase in my vehicle. Even with my really bad eyes, I could eat up a paper plate at 25 yards offhand. Since then, I scored a LNIB Beretta CX4 Storm that is a total dream, but I still want my old Subbie in the ragged out zipper bag behind the seat of my truck.

But, then again, I would have no problem with a HiPoint rifle for a pistol round carbine. Their unconditional warranty has to be the best in the market... and a "fun gun" is still a "fun gun".

As for the Camp Carbine... they are great looking firearms, and I always thought I wanted one. About the same time I was playing with the KT Sub2000, one of my running buddies popped up with a LNIB Camp Carbine and challenged me to a "shoot off". I don't know what weight bullets he was using, but every round tumbled and key-holed into about a 10 inch group from sand bags on the bench at 50 yards. I punched 6 inch groups with the cheezy Sub 2K, and made nice round holes.

Some guns are just plain fun, whether practical or not!


surv


dang, I love guns

10thmtn

Sorry for the highjack...

Does the Sub 2000 lock the bolt open when the mag is empty?

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mr surveyor

nope...no last round hold open, but the charging handle can be rotated into a notch manually to lock the bolt back

10thmtn

*sigh* That figures. Probably due to the ability to make them take so many different pistol mags. I prefer any firearm potentially used for defensive purposes to have a last-round bolt hold-open. Just a personal preference. Still will consider one, though. Thanks for the info.

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Ex-Army officer; Hurricane Andrew Relief, FL, 1992; Operation Restore Hope, Somalia, 1993
NRA Life Member; Range Safety Officer
Glock 26, CT Laserguard, Smartcarry

gunthorp

It doesn't allow a slide lock (emergency) reload. Counting rounds becomes difficult for me when I run out of fingers and toes, so I can do a tactical reload (before I hear a click instead of a bang) under cover.

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verkalak

Just bought mine OTD for $210.00 last month. Only have had about 500 rds through it. It worked every time. It's a inexpensive carbine and the thing really is fun to kill pumpkins at 50 yards. You'll read alot of blogs that say they are chheap and ugly. So what pony up a couple
hundred buck a have a good time.

TN_Mike

Having worked at several different gun shops and seen the kind of cheap crap that is on the market, I have never been a fan of HiPoint. But, having said that, I have heard some really good things about their carbine and very few, if any, bad things about it.

I have held one and it really surprised me with the ergonomic feel. That was the original stock and I now see that they have redesigned it. Very nice.

I hope it is a great shooter for you and I hope it makes a great home defense rifle! Love the pics that everyone posted!

By the way, does anyone know where I can find a $40 red dot sight? Any other suggestions on red dot sights that are not in the $300 range?

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AutoFan

I think that the $40 red dots won't hold up very well, but if you go up to ~$100 or so, UltraDot makes very good red dots.

tjsjr

SOG has the new TS for 213 plus shipping. and they have last roung hold open. with a little time they can look awesome: