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Recent discussion on options for 12ga shotgun ammo: click.
In my Remington 870P SBS, I use #1 Buck (five rounds of 2-3/4", 16 pellets, 1250fps).
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I use #1. Ayoob recommends this for the best combination of stopping power and safety in urban areas.
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None of my local shops carry #1, ever (so far as I have seen).
With the ammo shortage, even shotgun shells have been far harder to find, lately. Particularly #1, which isn't that common anyway. Generally, I can most consistently find it available online, through CheaperThanDirt.com. The best performing and most consistent round I've found in #1 for my 870P has been Winchester Super-X (#XB121), 2-3/4", #1 buck, 16 pellets, 1250fps. CheaperThanDirt has usually been out of these, the past ~9mos or so, though they have occasionally had others. Right now, CTD has a few #1 options in stock, including: Remington #1, 2-3/4", 16 pellet, 1250fps; Winchester Super-X #1, 3", 24 pellet, 1040fps.
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Yea I'd go for the #1 buck but find any either. Figured I'd go with something more available and get the most bang for my buck. Even though I have slugs at the ready, I like #00 buck and will stay away from the #4.
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I got my #1 buck online - hard to find otherwise.
As far as slugs go - I don't see the point, unless for longer range. They give up the main advantages of the shotgun - simultaneous delivery of multiple projectiles, and the ability to more easily hit a moving target. Even at longer ranges, a rain of buckshot pellets is probably going to deter all but the most suicidal BGs. ![]()
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I was just on the Remington website and they have a new HD round.
It's a combo of # 2 and #4 shot. It might be a good combo for penitration and spread. I have 00 buck in my 870 now but i'll probably buy some and check the pattern.
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I too am a fan of #1. I have to go to my least favorite gun store to buy it but sometimes we all have to bite the bullet.
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#1 may have it's advantages, but if you can't find any, those advantages are meaningless. 00 buck is readily available, so that is what is in my HD Mossberg.
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I like #4 buskshot for HD. In a HD situation you are going to be close and penetration at this range should not be an issue for #4. Plus #4 patterns better in my shotguns.
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