Looking to purchase a defensive/general purpose rifle - Page 3

Ghuqu2 · November 5th, 2009, 01:14 AM

On a different tack I suggest a SKS w/ a stock upgrade. It's in 7.62x39 good for HD as well as most larger game to ~250 yds. Better built then an AK, as hard to brake and cheap. Ammo is easy to find and cheap. Unless your short, a stock upgrade will help w/ ergonomics for less then $50. My wife calls mine a Giggle gun, because it's fun to shoot. Only con is they shoot minute of bad guy, 2-4 inch groups at 100yds 4-7" at 200yds. Won't thread a needle, but gets the job done.

sgb · November 5th, 2009, 01:28 AM

OD · November 5th, 2009, 01:49 PM

A levergun might be a good option, a good levergun in 30WCF will "reach-out" just as far as an AK, but with much better accuracy.

Top Winchester is a CQB carbine and the bottom is a long range sniper rifle.

SERE69 · November 12th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Maybe a 12ga with an 26 round XRAIL conversion or a FN FNAR....but you will need to scope the FN.

MadMac · November 17th, 2009, 12:27 PM

I just picked up a nearly-new CAI SAR-1 Romanian AKM with a Russian Kobra red dot sight, five 30-round magazines, a case, and a sweet trigger job for $560.

The thing simply eats the cheap Wolf 7.62 x 39 mm ammo, rarely needs cleaning, and is as reliable as a hammer.

If I ever need this for the zombies, I am comfortable it will always work easily and need a minimum of fuss or maintenance.

My criteria were:

- cheap
- reliable
- powerful enough to do the job
- readily available and inexpensive ammo

This one fit the bill.

PastorPack · November 17th, 2009, 12:43 PM

I don't think we're helping you narrow down your options.

I second the Mini-14. For the money you want to spend, you will be pretty limited on the AR platforms. The Mini-14 is right in the zone. You could pick on up and throw on some AR-type accessories.

Of course a lever action is always a great choice.

cmb · November 17th, 2009, 03:51 PM

I am not a rifle guy, I have a few, mostly 22's for plinking and small game. I personally like to shoot the Ruger Mini 14 and Mini 30, though I do not own one, yet. I prefer the 7.62 x 39 round, more bullet than 223. In my SKS at 100 yards I can consistantly hit clays on a stand, coke cans and keep 20 rounds on a smal target. The ammo doesn't break the bank, you can buy in bulk and lots of aftermarket accesories and stocks for the Mini 30 and SKS.

Siafu · November 17th, 2009, 05:15 PM

I like my Spikes Tactical 9mm AR rifle. It handles well and the savings in ammo in the first year should keep you grinning. 32 rounds of 9mm NATO should fill your HD needs pretty nicely. Spikes Tactical makes really great stuff and their rifles are truly top-notch. I have 3 of them (5.56, 9mm and .22LR) and they all work and look great!

faif2d · November 17th, 2009, 05:58 PM

I have a Rossie 1892 Winchester clone in .44 mag. I can use the same ammo in the pistol and it does not have the same connotation as the military style rifles. I must be old school because if it is not blue and walnut it just doesn't say firearm to me.

SIGP250 · November 17th, 2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sgt.Rock

I've been looking around my local gunshow recently, hoping to purchase a nice defensive/general purpose rifle, but I'm uncertain of the weapons on the market that would be worth purchasing. I know the standard AR's and AK's and some of the other weapons around like the FAL's and the G3's, but I've only shot a limited amount of "assault" rifles and it's making coming to an educated decision much more difficult.

I'd prefer the more common rifle calibre's; 5.56, 5.45, 7.62 (39, 51 and 54). I'm looking for a magazine box fed rifle with a capacity from 20-30 rounds standard (depending on the calibre), something accurate, ergonomic, operates smoothly and whatnot. I'd prerfer a ghost ring type sight system (or revolving cylinder like the G3), possibly with the capability of mounting optics not in a relief fashion (more near the face).

I've been looking at putting together a CMMG upper and lower AR reciever (A3 upper, medium length system, 16 inch barrel) and calling it a day with an AR, but there must be other (possibly cheaper) alternatives. I've seen G3's, FALs, Galil, the Isreali Galil clone, Mini-14/30's, AK's, Steyr's and other foreign weapons that possible are very nice but I wouldn't know till I shoot them.

I'm looking to spend anywhere from $500-900

Help would be much appreciated, Thanks.

I have some very fine rifles made mostly in Romania and Poland near your price point. This is not Junk. Understand, the Springfield DX pistol is made in Croatia.

PM me or email me.
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November 5th, 2009, 01:14 AM	#21
Ghuqu2 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 288	On a different tack I suggest a SKS w/ a stock upgrade. It's in 7.62x39 good for HD as well as most larger game to ~250 yds. Better built then an AK, as hard to brake and cheap. Ammo is easy to find and cheap. Unless your short, a stock upgrade will help w/ ergonomics for less then $50. My wife calls mine a Giggle gun, because it's fun to shoot. Only con is they shoot minute of bad guy, 2-4 inch groups at 100yds 4-7" at 200yds. Won't thread a needle, but gets the job done. __________________ "The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us." Patrick Henry 1775 Vegetarian: Indian for inept hunter.

November 5th, 2009, 01:28 AM	#22
sgb Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee Florida Posts: 87	__________________ *"The 1911 was the design given by God to us through John M. Browning that represents the epitome of what a killing tool needs to be. It was true in 1911 and is true now."*—Colonel Robert J. Coates, USMC

November 5th, 2009, 01:49 PM	#23
OD VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vatican City Posts: 3,292	A levergun might be a good option, a good levergun in 30WCF will "reach-out" just as far as an AK, but with much better accuracy. Top Winchester is a CQB carbine and the bottom is a long range sniper rifle. __________________ OD "Slow down, you'll get a more harmonious outcome...." -------------------------------------------- *"The pistol, learn it well, carry it always ..." - Jeff Cooper*

November 17th, 2009, 12:27 PM	#25
MadMac Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Posts: 495	I just picked up a nearly-new CAI SAR-1 Romanian AKM with a Russian Kobra red dot sight, five 30-round magazines, a case, and a sweet trigger job for $560. The thing simply eats the cheap Wolf 7.62 x 39 mm ammo, rarely needs cleaning, and is as reliable as a hammer. If I ever need this for the zombies, I am comfortable it will always work easily and need a minimum of fuss or maintenance. My criteria were: - cheap - reliable - powerful enough to do the job - readily available and inexpensive ammo This one fit the bill. Last edited by MadMac; November 17th, 2009 at 02:29 PM..

November 17th, 2009, 12:43 PM	#26
PastorPack Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,124	I don't think we're helping you narrow down your options. I second the Mini-14. For the money you want to spend, you will be pretty limited on the AR platforms. The Mini-14 is right in the zone. You could pick on up and throw on some AR-type accessories. Of course a lever action is always a great choice. __________________ God is love (1 John 4:8)

November 12th, 2009, 05:43 PM	#24
SERE69 New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 13	Maybe a 12ga with an 26 round XRAIL conversion or a FN FNAR....but you will need to scope the FN.

November 17th, 2009, 03:51 PM	#27
cmb Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: florida Posts: 371	I am not a rifle guy, I have a few, mostly 22's for plinking and small game. I personally like to shoot the Ruger Mini 14 and Mini 30, though I do not own one, yet. I prefer the 7.62 x 39 round, more bullet than 223. In my SKS at 100 yards I can consistantly hit clays on a stand, coke cans and keep 20 rounds on a smal target. The ammo doesn't break the bank, you can buy in bulk and lots of aftermarket accesories and stocks for the Mini 30 and SKS.

November 17th, 2009, 05:15 PM	#28
Siafu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Jahunga Posts: 987	I like my Spikes Tactical 9mm AR rifle. It handles well and the savings in ammo in the first year should keep you grinning. 32 rounds of 9mm NATO should fill your HD needs pretty nicely. Spikes Tactical makes really great stuff and their rifles are truly top-notch. I have 3 of them (5.56, 9mm and .22LR) and they all work and look great!

November 17th, 2009, 05:58 PM	#29
faif2d Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 67	I have a Rossie 1892 Winchester clone in .44 mag. I can use the same ammo in the pistol and it does not have the same connotation as the military style rifles. I must be old school because if it is not blue and walnut it just doesn't say firearm to me.

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