Counter productive posts to the Second Amendment cause

ImChad · January 11th, 2009, 12:58 PM

I keep seeing posts that I find as fuel for the antis and their cause. We need to have some sort of a reminder for anyone posting that pro-second amendment people are not the only ones reading this forum.

I know, like you that I can find more than a couple posts that the antis can easily use to fuel their arguments with and turning more people away from responsible gun ownership.

I've been guilty of this in the past too. I assume because we're after a like minded cause that we're the only ones here, but thats just not the case. Please keep a watchful eye for your posts and consider if its productive to conceal carry or counter productive.

I would really like to see some sort of a reminder for our group that others are reading here too.

Maverickx50 · January 11th, 2009, 01:05 PM

There are all types of people here. From the radical right to the left but realistic. I often see postings on either side of a question that make we wonder where "that" came from but as a whole this is still the most informative and interesting gun related site I belong to and a good part of the reason why is the variety of opinions expressed here. The "anties" will find their proof even if they have to make it up out of thin air. So I'm not too concerned myself.

ccw9mm · January 11th, 2009, 01:16 PM

It's always worth remembering one thing, when posting here: this is a public forum.

All sorts of folks see exactly what we post, get to read the discussions and rationalizations, get to hear first-hand the comments about what we imagine we would or wouldn't do in certain situations.

The one thing we cannot control is how others take it. The one thing we can control is what we say and how we say it.

As for whether it's productive to carry or not, the only worthwhile "production" is the maintenance of my ability to protect myself and my family. In a country where the "authorities" are absolved from providing me any security or protection, it's my responsibility. That some folks get bummed with my (and millions of others) opting to do so remains their problem, as having the means for self-defense ability is not a crime.

Tally XD · January 11th, 2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImChad

I keep seeing posts that I find as fuel for the antis and their cause. We need to have some sort of a reminder for anyone posting that pro-second amendment people are not the only ones reading this forum.

I know, like you that I can find more than a couple posts that the antis can easily use to fuel their arguments with and turning more people away from responsible gun ownership.

I've been guilty of this in the past too. I assume because we're after a like minded cause that we're the only ones here, but thats just not the case. Please keep a watchful eye for your posts and consider if its productive to conceal carry or counter productive.

I would really like to see some sort of a reminder for our group that others are reading here too.

Examples?

JAT40 · January 11th, 2009, 01:17 PM

I agree we always need to be mindful not to give the enemy any ammo.
The Mods on this site do a great job of weeding posts that may hurt our cause.

HotGuns · January 11th, 2009, 01:24 PM

The anti gunners already have all the "ammo" that they need.

They want your gun. They don't care how they get it. What ever you say does not matter to them. They hear what they want to hear. They see only what they want to see. They cannot rationalize, comprehend or understand the simple concept of being able to defend ones self with a gun.

So, speak freely while you can. Don't worry about what a bunch of yahoos might think or say, because their minds are already made up.

If something is out of line, we will remove it. Otherwise, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how right or wrong we perceive it to be.

Heck, I was even wrong once, a long time ago....

rottkeeper · January 11th, 2009, 01:45 PM

The mods do a good job of keeping order, we also have another amendment that involves the freedom of speech that the anti's may want to take. Should we let them stop us from stating our views.
As HotGuns said the anti's already have all the ammo they need as far as they are concerned, common sense will not sway them.

flagflyfish · January 11th, 2009, 01:47 PM

Heck, I was even wrong once, a long time ago....

Say it ain't so!!!!!!

There are a lot of differing opinions here, take what you can use and leave the rest. I agree that the anti's want your guns and will stop at nothing to get them, including bending the truth to suit their purposes.

Tally XD · January 11th, 2009, 02:34 PM

I agree as well. The Mods here are some of the most diligent I have encountered anywhere. Most anything that is harmful or negative to the forum is usually quickly removed.

And yes, we do still have free speech and the anti-gunners are going to continue their efforts to thwart the rights of law abiding gun owners no matter what any of us serve up in opposition to them.

ImChad · January 11th, 2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tally XD

Examples?

To start with, we had one this AM about someone wanting to have a shootout to protect the police. Thats a good starter.

January 11th, 2009, 12:58 PM	#1
ImChad Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Great State of Indiana Posts: 117	Counter productive posts to the Second Amendment cause I keep seeing posts that I find as fuel for the antis and their cause. We need to have some sort of a reminder for anyone posting that pro-second amendment people are not the only ones reading this forum. I know, like you that I can find more than a couple posts that the antis can easily use to fuel their arguments with and turning more people away from responsible gun ownership. I've been guilty of this in the past too. I assume because we're after a like minded cause that we're the only ones here, but thats just not the case. Please keep a watchful eye for your posts and consider if its productive to conceal carry or counter productive. I would really like to see some sort of a reminder for our group that others are reading here too. __________________ They can't take your right to own a firearm. They can ask with force and you can answer any way you choose.

January 11th, 2009, 01:05 PM	#2
Maverickx50 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 217	There are all types of people here. From the radical right to the left but realistic. I often see postings on either side of a question that make we wonder where "that" came from but as a whole this is still the most informative and interesting gun related site I belong to and a good part of the reason why is the variety of opinions expressed here. The "anties" will find their proof even if they have to make it up out of thin air. So I'm not too concerned myself. __________________ There are no problems in this world that can't be resolved easily with the appropriate application of explosives.

January 11th, 2009, 01:16 PM	#3
ccw9mm VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 8,384	It's always worth remembering one thing, when posting here: this is a public forum. All sorts of folks see exactly what we post, get to read the discussions and rationalizations, get to hear first-hand the comments about what we imagine we would or wouldn't do in certain situations. The one thing we cannot control is how others take it. The one thing we can control is what we say and how we say it. As for whether it's productive to carry or not, the only worthwhile "production" is the maintenance of my ability to protect myself and my family. In a country where the "authorities" are absolved from providing me any security or protection, it's my responsibility. That some folks get bummed with my (and millions of others) opting to do so remains their problem, as having the means for self-defense ability is not a crime. __________________ Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it. Thoughts: Justifiable self defense. Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims? Deal with evil through strength. Affirm the good in Man through trust. NRA. GOA. OFF.

January 11th, 2009, 01:17 PM	#5
JAT40 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ma Posts: 2,214	I agree we always need to be mindful not to give the enemy any ammo. The Mods on this site do a great job of weeding posts that may hurt our cause. __________________ While people are saying "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, ... and they will not escape. 1Th 5:3

January 11th, 2009, 01:24 PM	#6
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,582	The anti gunners already have all the "ammo" that they need. They want your gun. They don't care how they get it. What ever you say does not matter to them. They hear what they want to hear. They see only what they want to see. They cannot rationalize, comprehend or understand the simple concept of being able to defend ones self with a gun. So, speak freely while you can. Don't worry about what a bunch of yahoos might think or say, because their minds are already made up. If something is out of line, we will remove it. Otherwise, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how right or wrong we perceive it to be. Heck, I was even wrong once, a long time ago.... __________________ AR. CHL Instr. To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson

January 11th, 2009, 01:45 PM	#7
rottkeeper VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,227	The mods do a good job of keeping order, we also have another amendment that involves the freedom of speech that the anti's may want to take. Should we let them stop us from stating our views. As HotGuns said the anti's already have all the ammo they need as far as they are concerned, common sense will not sway them. __________________ For as the lighting comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the son of man be. Mathew 24:27 NRA Member

January 11th, 2009, 01:47 PM	#8
flagflyfish Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: White Sands area, NM Posts: 957	Heck, I was even wrong once, a long time ago.... Say it ain't so!!!!!! There are a lot of differing opinions here, take what you can use and leave the rest. I agree that the anti's want your guns and will stop at nothing to get them, including bending the truth to suit their purposes. __________________ "These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman." -- Thomas Paine (The American Crisis, No. 1, 19 December 1776)

January 11th, 2009, 02:34 PM	#9
Tally XD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 1,011	I agree as well. The Mods here are some of the most diligent I have encountered anywhere. Most anything that is harmful or negative to the forum is usually quickly removed. And yes, we do still have free speech and the anti-gunners are going to continue their efforts to thwart the rights of law abiding gun owners no matter what any of us serve up in opposition to them. __________________ “I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry.” - Barack Obama Chicago Tribune, April 27, 2004

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