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Old November 6th, 2009, 12:35 PM   #1
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Forum Donation not refunded

My account was debited > 6months ago for an annual donation that I did not authorize. I have contacted you twice about a refund, but my account I has not yet been credited.

Please issue a full refund by check to me immediatly.

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Old November 6th, 2009, 01:26 PM   #2
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I'll make certain that Bumper gets this VIA his mail.

Just FYI You are showing as:

Donation Using PayPal August 30th, 2007 to August 30th, 2010
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Old November 6th, 2009, 03:46 PM   #3
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First off, the last charge to your account, which you did setup and authorize yourself was August 30th, 2009, which was not six months ago. You set up an annual subscription whether you realize it now or not - I cannot setup subscriptions on other people's account.

The transactions (and reversal) related to the subscription are pasted below for your reference. While I don't have the exact dates of all of our emails back and forth, at the bottom of this post contains the emails related to this transaction, including the refund and your acknowledgment with a "Thank you sir."

If this jogs your memory and resolves your problem, let me know and I will close this thread, otherwise please explain how the problem has not been resolved.


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My account was debited > 6months ago for an annual donation that I did not authorize. I have contacted you twice about a refund, but my account I has not yet been credited.

Please issue a full refund by check to me immediatly.

Thank you,
LastManOut

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Below is the detail out of the vBulletin transaction log:

18:48, 30th Aug 2007 1PA399983U032483S 20.00 USD LastManOut Donation Using PayPal Charge

04:25, 30th Aug 2008 0R927823JT946194S 20.00 USD LastManOut Donation Using PayPal Charge

05:17, 30th Aug 2009 78J2822588448072Y 20.00 USD LastManOut Donation Using PayPal Charge

19:00, 8th Sep 2009 6W094791TV526484G 0 USD LastManOut Donation Using PayPal Reversal

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This is the detail from the "Reversal" transaction above, also from the vBulletin transaction log:

Refund (Unique Transaction ID #6W094791TV526484G)
In reference to: S-1JU60734YM843715J

Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net
Aug 30, 2009 Payment From David Hill Refunded Details $20.00 USD -$0.88 USD $19.12 USD

Related Transaction
Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net
Sep 8, 2009 Refund Completed ... -$20.00 USD $0.88 USD -$19.12 USD

Sent by:
David Hill
Email:
n3xge@ptd.net
Total Amount:
-$20.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.88 USD
Net amount:
-$19.12 USD

Date:
Sep 8, 2009
Time:
19:00:05 PDT
Status:
Completed

Subject:
You have sent $19.12 USD to David Hill with PayPal
Note:
From DefensiveCarry.com

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This is the copy of the email I received from PayPal acknowledging the reversal:

A paid subscription has just been reversed by LastManOut at DefensiveCarry Concealed Carry Forum

To view their profile, go here:

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...astmanout.html

Username : LastManOut
Subscription : Donation Using PayPal
Amount: --20.00 USD
Processor: Paypal
Transaction ID: 6W094791TV526484G

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And, finally, this is the email exchange that we had back on September 9th, 2009:

Thank you sir.

Dave

Randy Wiley wrote:
> I found the transaction and refunded it from there.
>
> Regards,
> Bumper
>
> Dave Hill wrote:
>> The subscription renewal to DefensiveCarry.com I di not authorize an automatic renewal.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Randy Wiley wrote:
>>> Was I supposed to refund you through PayPal for something? No problem refunding you, but please let me know what it's for, etc....
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bumper
>>>
>>> Dave Hill wrote:
>>>> Have you refunded my $20 yet? Paypal does not show it yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David Hill
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Old November 6th, 2009, 09:10 PM   #4
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Old November 6th, 2009, 09:51 PM   #5
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I don't know anything about closing this thread, but the evidence provided by Bumper would seemingly close this case. Got to love on-line transactions...leaves a trail Ray Charles could follow.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #6
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Sure hate to see the coffers go back wards here after all of your hard work Bumper and all the Moderators.

Have put in about 100 hours at work this week alone, no time to do anything but read DC, so Bumper PM me your address and I will send you a check for $25.00. Think of it as the "Z" stimulus plan.

Thanks for the sight.


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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:55 AM   #7
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Sure hate to see the coffers go back wards here after all of your hard work Bumper and all the Moderators.

Have put in about 100 hours at work this week alone, no time to do anything but read DC, so Bumper PM me your address and I will send you a check for $25.00. Think of it as the "Z" stimulus plan.
Thanks, I'll PM you my address...
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Old November 9th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #8
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My apologies, I did not check Paypal as I thought my original donation was setup as a direct debit from my checking/debit card. (My CRS disease must be advancing to CRFS.)

I have nothing negative to say about the forum or the members. Times are tight and time is limited for accessing discussions.

Peace,
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Old November 10th, 2009, 03:06 AM   #9
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My apologies, I did not check Paypal as I thought my original donation was setup as a direct debit from my checking/debit card. (My CRS disease must be advancing to CRFS.)
No problem, we all have it sooner or later. Just be sure you log into PayPal and cancel that subscription or they will charge you next time around again.
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