I got a cleaning kit.. need some help identifying some parts.

floridaguy911 · August 10th, 2006, 08:55 PM

In the cleaning kit came several different kinds of things, most i believe... i can identify correctly. Please help with what I am unsure of. I know on the left is all the different size pushrods 17,22,30 and 12ga. BOTTOM right of the pushrods is obviously the cleaning bristles for different calibers.. used in conjunction with something like CLP or Hoppes.

1) the white wool mops above of the brass bristles. What are those used for? Im assuming after i use the brass brushes, that is the finishing "stroke" to clean the inside of the bore of any moisture?.. Help me out on that.

The "toothbrushes" are brass, stainless, and nylon. I know these help clean all the parts of the gun, like the slide, and in the reciever. However...
2) I dont know what the difference is with the brush types.. what each is for application wise, etc.

Under the toothbrushes, and to the right of the wool/brass brushes, there are 2 black brushes with loop handles. The only thing I can see on the box that relates to these is possibly "Breech and Choke cleaning brush"
3) What are the loop handles brushes for? The breech is the part where the ammunition comes into the barrel right? and the Choke would be the business end?

I know both boxes are patches of different sizes and am aware of what patches are for, and below those are the patch "holders" (in black)

Next issue is the things in the blue plastic peice. On the box it says "jags" but I truly cant figure out exactly what they are used for. They are calibered in assorted calibers from 17 to like .50 cal.
4) what are these "jags" used for?

Last but not least, Outside of the case, beside the bottom right latch. Two "handles" The T handle I believe rotates if its like the other rod I have. (Not a whole kit) But am confused about the Bullet style Handle ..(right of latch)
5) what is the "bullet style" handle used for? Why does the top come off of it like you can put something inside of it? (its sitting on the "top")

Yeah.. im a little embarrassed about posting this but If i dont ask I wont know. I'd rather be embarrassed and unexperienced with cleaning, than unexperienced and cleaning and doing things all wrong.

Thanks to all responses in advance.

Redneck Repairs · August 10th, 2006, 09:02 PM

Nice kit , I am a bit pressed for time at the moment , but i will re check the thread in a bit ( prob a couple of hours ) and if no one has chimmed in and explained the kit to you i will see what i can do for ya .

Team American · August 10th, 2006, 09:10 PM

Ditto on the nice kit!...

Others will jump in I'm sure, but I'll at least tell you about the cleaning jags...cleaning patches roll around the jags, like rolling a cigarrette...not stuck over the pointy part. You can bend the jag and get them stuck in the bore if you try it that way...please don't ask me how I found this out...

You can put Hoppes on the patches, or leave them dry.

P95Carry · August 10th, 2006, 09:49 PM

I also haven't quite the time to write a whole screed on this yet - there are many points to make which would take a while. I'll drop in later if not enough feedback.

CopperKnight · August 10th, 2006, 09:51 PM

[quote=floridaguy911]1) the white wool mops above of the brass bristles. What are those used for? Im assuming after i use the brass brushes, that is the finishing "stroke" to clean the inside of the bore of any moisture?.. Help me out on that.
Yep, bore mops. I've always put some oil on them for a final stroke.

2) I dont know what the difference is with the brush types.. what each is for application wise, etc.
I don't have a use for the metal ones, maybe someone else can help with that.

3) What are the loop handles brushes for? The breech is the part where the ammunition comes into the barrel right? and the Choke would be the business end?
Look like pistol/revolver brushes, easier to use on the short barrels.

I know both boxes are patches of different sizes and am aware of what patches are for, and below those are the patch "holders" (in black)

Team American got you on the jags. Good for tough scrubbing bores.

5) what is the "bullet style" handle used for? Why does the top come off of it like you can put something inside of it? (its sitting on the "top")
Umm, stumped me here.
Yeah.. im a little embarrassed about posting this crap but If i dont ask I wont know. I'd rather be embarrassed and unexperienced with cleaning, than unexperienced and cleaning and doing things all wrong.

Everyone had to learn from someone. No embarassment there.

Redneck Repairs · August 10th, 2006, 09:59 PM

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1) the white wool mops above of the brass bristles. What are those used for? Im assuming after i use the brass brushes, that is the finishing "stroke" to clean the inside of the bore of any moisture?.. Help me out on that.

Use the mops to spread an even light coat of oil on the inside of the barrel.

Quote:

The "toothbrushes" are brass, stainless, and nylon. I know these help clean all the parts of the gun, like the slide, and in the reciever. However...
2) I dont know what the difference is with the brush types.. what each is for application wise, etc.

The basic rule of thumb is be shure you use a brush made of softer material than your gun/finish ie.. dont use the steel brush on the outside of the gun and scratch the finish , or on aluminum frames for the same reason . They are ideal for getting crud out of the recesses in auto pistol barrels tho ( locking lugs , ect )

Quote:

Under the toothbrushes, and to the right of the wool/brass brushes, there are 2 black brushes with loop handles. The only thing I can see on the box that relates to these is possibly "Breech and Choke cleaning brush"
3) What are the loop handles brushes for? The breech is the part where the ammunition comes into the barrel right? and the Choke would be the business end?

You pretty much nailed that one by your self , they are an extreamly soft nylon brush that wont damage or scratch feedramps , choke tube threads , ect .

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I know both boxes are patches of different sizes and am aware of what patches are for, and below those are the patch "holders" (in black)

Next issue is the things in the blue plastic peice. On the box it says "jags" but I truly cant figure out exactly what they are used for. They are calibered in assorted calibers from 17 to like .50 cal.
4) what are these "jags" used for?

Last but not least, Outside of the case, beside the bottom right latch. Two "handles" The T handle I believe rotates if its like the other rod I have. (Not a whole kit) But am confused about the Bullet style Handle ..(right of latch)
5) what is the "bullet style" handle used for? Why does the top come off of it like you can put something inside of it? (its sitting on the "top")

This i will take as a block lol The patch holders ( the ones with the slot ) are for running a patch soaked with hoppies 9 or other solivent thro the bore from the breech end when you cannot clean from the breech , a ruger 10-22 style auto comes to mind( where you would run a naked rod down the bore from the muzzle , attach the patch then pull the patch back thro the barrel . the jags are for the same thing from the breech end when possible . the two style handles are for comfort when cleaning as the t style is easyer to hang onto when pulling a patch thro , and the other easyer when pushing one thro . the cap and hollow is both for cheaper manfuacture and a handy place to stash a fiew patches and a jag if your taking one cal to the range ect .

As a side note allways clean barrels from the breech end when possible so you have less chance of nicking or damageing the rifleing at the muzzle , even an almost invisible ding there can drasticly affect accuracy .

hsuCowboy98 · August 10th, 2006, 11:37 PM

Redneck Repairs Got it nailed down before I could get here.

Ill go ahead and say that you may want to forget about the steel bristle brush...set it aside. All the steel brushes are good for is messing up something really good. If you cant get it with the nylon or the bronze, then maybe resort to the steel, but only in a very cautious fashion.

Also, as another tip regarding brushes...I really like to use colgate motorized brushes for my cleaning, as the bristles are a mixture of soft and stiff, rotate and generally blast crud right off whatever you need it to, all for a very economical price, and with minimal carpal tunnel formation if you know what I mean.

Nice kit, have fun cleaning and maintaining your guns, your life may depend n the quality of your cleaning someday.

P95Carry · August 10th, 2006, 11:54 PM

Some good info guys - saved me a mess of time

Bumper · August 11th, 2006, 12:05 AM

It may be just me, but I have always removed the steel "toothbrushes" from my kits and thrown them in my tool box. I don't want them anywhere near my guns. That bullet shaped handle does come in handy carrying in your range bag for quick cleanings or emergencies.

I also impale my patches on the point of my jags, too. I'm thinking TA needs to tell us that story he left out.....

P95Carry · August 11th, 2006, 12:17 AM

Re jags in particular - gotta add that the Parker Hale stuff I always used when ''over other side of pond'', worked and works way better for me than what I find here.

The brass jag's - see pic below - whether for rifle or pistol work are better than anything else I have tried - I just wrap what I know is needed for cal of ''4 by 2'' patch - used in UK mil - or was. It holds well.

Bronze brushes also more robust and last better. Just a mention for those who might want something different. I must admit Dewey rods are the tops but sadly won't accept Parker threads.

August 10th, 2006, 08:55 PM	#1
floridaguy911 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 487	I got a cleaning kit.. need some help identifying some parts. In the cleaning kit came several different kinds of things, most i believe... i can identify correctly. Please help with what I am unsure of. I know on the left is all the different size pushrods 17,22,30 and 12ga. BOTTOM right of the pushrods is obviously the cleaning bristles for different calibers.. used in conjunction with something like CLP or Hoppes. 1) the white wool mops above of the brass bristles. What are those used for? Im assuming after i use the brass brushes, that is the finishing "stroke" to clean the inside of the bore of any moisture?.. Help me out on that. The "toothbrushes" are brass, stainless, and nylon. I know these help clean all the parts of the gun, like the slide, and in the reciever. However... 2) I dont know what the difference is with the brush types.. what each is for application wise, etc. Under the toothbrushes, and to the right of the wool/brass brushes, there are 2 black brushes with loop handles. The only thing I can see on the box that relates to these is possibly "Breech and Choke cleaning brush" 3) What are the loop handles brushes for? The breech is the part where the ammunition comes into the barrel right? and the Choke would be the business end? I know both boxes are patches of different sizes and am aware of what patches are for, and below those are the patch "holders" (in black) Next issue is the things in the blue plastic peice. On the box it says "jags" but I truly cant figure out exactly what they are used for. They are calibered in assorted calibers from 17 to like .50 cal. 4) what are these "jags" used for? Last but not least, Outside of the case, beside the bottom right latch. Two "handles" The T handle I believe rotates if its like the other rod I have. (Not a whole kit) But am confused about the Bullet style Handle ..(right of latch) 5) what is the "bullet style" handle used for? Why does the top come off of it like you can put something inside of it? (its sitting on the "top") Yeah.. im a little embarrassed about posting this but If i dont ask I wont know. I'd rather be embarrassed and unexperienced with cleaning, than unexperienced and cleaning and doing things all wrong. Thanks to all responses in advance. __________________ N.R.A. Member G.O.A. Member Unified Sportsmen of Florida Member

August 10th, 2006, 09:10 PM	#3
Team American VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,797	Ditto on the nice kit!... Others will jump in I'm sure, but I'll at least tell you about the cleaning jags...cleaning patches roll around the jags, like rolling a cigarrette...not stuck over the pointy part. You can bend the jag and get them stuck in the bore if you try it that way...please don't ask me how I found this out... You can put Hoppes on the patches, or leave them dry. __________________ "I surrounded 'em"- Alvin York "They're ain't many troubles that a man can't fix with seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six"- Jeff Cooper

August 10th, 2006, 09:49 PM	#4
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,407	I also haven't quite the time to write a whole screed on this yet - there are many points to make which would take a while. I'll drop in later if not enough feedback. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

August 10th, 2006, 09:51 PM	#5
CopperKnight Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane area, WA Posts: 4,834	[quote=floridaguy911]1) the white wool mops above of the brass bristles. What are those used for? Im assuming after i use the brass brushes, that is the finishing "stroke" to clean the inside of the bore of any moisture?.. Help me out on that. Yep, bore mops. I've always put some oil on them for a final stroke. 2) I dont know what the difference is with the brush types.. what each is for application wise, etc. I don't have a use for the metal ones, maybe someone else can help with that. 3) What are the loop handles brushes for? The breech is the part where the ammunition comes into the barrel right? and the Choke would be the business end? Look like pistol/revolver brushes, easier to use on the short barrels. I know both boxes are patches of different sizes and am aware of what patches are for, and below those are the patch "holders" (in black) Team American got you on the jags. Good for tough scrubbing bores. 5) what is the "bullet style" handle used for? Why does the top come off of it like you can put something inside of it? (its sitting on the "top") Umm, stumped me here. Yeah.. im a little embarrassed about posting this crap but If i dont ask I wont know. I'd rather be embarrassed and unexperienced with cleaning, than unexperienced and cleaning and doing things all wrong. Everyone had to learn from someone. No embarassment there. __________________ Being happy doesn't mean everything's perfect, but that you've decided to see beyond the imperfections. The only thing that stops bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. SgtD

August 10th, 2006, 11:37 PM	#7
hsuCowboy98 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,023	Redneck Repairs Got it nailed down before I could get here. Ill go ahead and say that you may want to forget about the steel bristle brush...set it aside. All the steel brushes are good for is messing up something really good. If you cant get it with the nylon or the bronze, then maybe resort to the steel, but only in a very cautious fashion. Also, as another tip regarding brushes...I really like to use colgate motorized brushes for my cleaning, as the bristles are a mixture of soft and stiff, rotate and generally blast crud right off whatever you need it to, all for a very economical price, and with minimal carpal tunnel formation if you know what I mean. Nice kit, have fun cleaning and maintaining your guns, your life may depend n the quality of your cleaning someday. __________________ Fear No Evil.

August 10th, 2006, 09:02 PM	#2
Redneck Repairs VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,141	Nice kit , I am a bit pressed for time at the moment , but i will re check the thread in a bit ( prob a couple of hours ) and if no one has chimmed in and explained the kit to you i will see what i can do for ya .

August 10th, 2006, 11:54 PM	#8
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,407	Some good info guys - saved me a mess of time __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

August 11th, 2006, 12:05 AM	#9
Bumper Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 14,716	It may be just me, but I have always removed the steel "toothbrushes" from my kits and thrown them in my tool box. I don't want them anywhere near my guns. That bullet shaped handle does come in handy carrying in your range bag for quick cleanings or emergencies. I also impale my patches on the point of my jags, too. I'm thinking TA needs to tell us that story he left out..... __________________ Bumper Administrator DefensiveCarry.com Forum Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.

August 11th, 2006, 12:17 AM	#10
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,407	Re jags in particular - gotta add that the Parker Hale stuff I always used when ''over other side of pond'', worked and works way better for me than what I find here. The brass jag's - see pic below - whether for rifle or pistol work are better than anything else I have tried - I just wrap what I know is needed for cal of ''4 by 2'' patch - used in UK mil - or was. It holds well. Bronze brushes also more robust and last better. Just a mention for those who might want something different. I must admit Dewey rods are the tops but sadly won't accept Parker threads. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

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