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Old October 4th, 2006, 09:06 AM   #11
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"It was designed as and is intended as a long-range target and hunting pistol".HUH ??

IIRC the above is taken from their own advertisment,as added by QKshooter. Lookin' at the weapon/scope setup I'd say that their"long range" would amount to 50 yds.

If you want a "fun gun" go for it. Otherwise stick to a weapon/caliber/scope setup similar to the one that P95 has posted in post #5.

Take a close look at the pic of the KT. How ya gonna hold it/rest it for a shot ?? How accurate is it gonna be with the strap wrapped around your shoulder and held with outstretched arms ??

My T/C had the same grip/forearm as P95's and the forward mounting screw was replaced with a standard 1/4" sling swivel stud. With a Harris bipod installed and shooting my handloads from the prone position or from a bench,my weapon was a 1/2 to 2/3 MOA shooter out to 175(or so) yds., and 1MOA out to 275yds.

If you want a weapon to take to the range,that everybody will ooohhhh and ahhhh at,when shot at dusk........well the KT is for you. --------
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Old October 4th, 2006, 10:58 AM   #12
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Same family as the HK Sp-89. The sling will offer decent stability, if you thrust it out firmly. Sighting would be best done with a reflex, of some sort. It could easily be carried in the Eagle SP/MP5k shoulder rig, if you can find one. Not a bad little "crisis" weapon, especially if you're already in .223.

The latest issue of Small Arms Review has an article that says the ATF is re-evaluating the addition of a front grip for some pistols (ie. is it still a pistol, or AOW?) haven't had time to read it yet, but if the policy is being liberalized, it could make things like this more attractive.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 04:04 PM   #13
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Personally I would relegate this firearm into "Cool Factor Fun Gun" status & maybe more useful with a holographic sight for defending the ol' cabin in the woods.
One nice feature is that extra magazines can be had for an extremely cheap price.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 04:21 PM   #14
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I love mine! I've put close to a thousand rounds through it and of all my firearms this one gives the most grins per round.

I've found it to be more accurate than one might think, shooting open sights and have had no problems with feeding/ejecting shooting Lake City ammo. I have a reflex sight that will go on as soon as I have more time.

I didn't buy it for hunting or home defense...I purchased mine because I thought it was cool...for a change I was correct.

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Old October 4th, 2006, 04:29 PM   #15
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I wish they would come out with a carbine model (su16) and pistol (plr16) in 308 caliber. In Washington it is illeagal to hunt large game with a caliber less then .25. A small foldable carbine or lightweight semiauto pistol in a rifle caliber such as 308 would be great for long camping/hunting trips. Also one would feel more at ease while fishing in Bear country with a semiauto in a rifle caliber that is light and easy to carry and not get in the way of the fishing gear.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 06:10 PM   #16
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I have one...definately fits in the class of "fun gun", although properly equipped I'm sure there are scenarios where it could serve defensive purposes. A reflex sight, flash suppressor, and the compact foreend are worthwhile customizations...the foreend is almost essential, as it gives you the ability to shoot it with the support hand under the barrel.

Really, it is just a lot of fun to shoot! For any specific scenario you could probably name a more suited weapon but in general, this is just a great little gun. I've had no malfunctions or issues with it, btw.
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And the application would be...................(other than havin' fun) ?? -------
Carry legally in the front of the car or on your person. It is a pistol!

I want one!

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