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Old October 3rd, 2006, 06:36 PM   #1
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.223 Pistol

What does everyone think about the kel-tec plr-16. Price is reasonable. Fun range gun with a big boom



The PLR-16 is a gas operated, semi-automatic pistol chambered in 5.56 mm NATO caliber. It was designed as and is intended as a long-range target and hunting pistol.
The PLR-16 has a conventional gas piston operation and utilizes the proven M-16 breech locking system. The rear sight is adjustable for windage. The front sight is of M-16 type. An integrated MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail will accept a multitude of standard accessories. The muzzle end of the barrel is threaded 1/2” -28 to accept standard attachments such as a muzzle brake. Except for the barrel, bolt, sights, and mechanism, the PLR-16 pistol is made entirely of high-impact glass fiber reinforced polymer.
The PLR-16 pistol comes blued, with one 10 round magazine (fully AR15/M16 magazine compatible), and includes a gun lock.

Technical Specifications
Caliber: .223 rem 5.56mm NATO
Weight unloaded (no magazine): 51 oz 1450 g
Length: 18.5" 470 mm
Barrel length: 9.2" 234 mm
Sight radius: 12.5" 318 mm
Muzzle velocity (M193) 2600 fps 800 m/s
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds, or M-16 compatible
Safety Ambidextrous pushbolt


Optional accessories will include:
Under-picatinny forend, scope rings, dynamic deflecting operating handle, single point sling, and a muzzle brake specifically design for the 9.2" barrel of the PLR-16.
Accessories shown above are not included.

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Old October 3rd, 2006, 06:37 PM   #2
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well i have to admit i want one , that being said i wont be ordering a sholder holster for it either lol
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Old October 3rd, 2006, 07:50 PM   #3
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And the application would be...................(other than havin' fun) ?? -------
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Old October 3rd, 2006, 10:27 PM   #4
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Honestly, I'd rather have another AR in any stocked configuration.

A pistol in a rifle caliber is still a pistol, fun at the range...maybe.
But for hunting? A 30 Rd. mag is usually not allowed, and personally unless your hunting some scrawny game I'd want more than a .223.
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I know of one guy who has one, and added some extra's, including I believe what was maybe a KT mod' too. He loves it and it runs well.

I'd like one but - for now have to enjoy .223 handgun shooting single shot - thru my Contender - real tack driver!!


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Old October 3rd, 2006, 10:41 PM   #6
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Fired one recently

One of the guys I work with at the gunshop just bought one. We tested it in wet newspaper with American Eagle JHP, 55gr ball, and M855 green tip. Flash and boom, tremendous, even with flash hider installed. Fun factor, extreme. Ballistic performance....Well. The JHP expanded evenly, both the ball rounds tumbled but stayed together. The 55gr spit a bit of lead out of the base. The same rounds out of a 16" AR we compared it with fragmented to unidentifiable pieces. Not sure, but don't think so, that M855 is "armor piercing" as defined in FL law. Still a little close for comfort. Great gun, high quality, fun to shoot. Probably better ballistic performance than smaller pistols, especially if you faced armored opponants. Not exactly sure if it has a defense application, although he wants to find a way to carry it Oh to be young and foolish again.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 12:24 AM   #7
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I handled one a coulple of weeks ago at a loclal gun shop. It seemed to be a very well put together weapon other than the 10 round polymer magazine that comes with it. It felt a little cheesy, but whose going to use that mag anyway. 30 round AR mags are a must for that gun. I too feel like I need one and barely fought off the urge to buy it. He was asking $435 for it which seemed reasonable compared to the 600 and something Kel tec list it for.

I can't see any practical use for it, but it looks cool and looks like a lot of fun to shoot.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 03:03 AM   #8
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Well I want one. I think they would be very practical to carry in a backpack for a backup gun during hikes in the mountains . or a primary while hiking with it slung across the sholder. for myself while in the mountains my primary gun is a 30-30 rifle. It never hurts to have extra guns just in case Murphy shows up. I also think it would be easy to carry in the large pockets in my various vest.
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I've handled them at the gun show, and agree they appear to be pretty well made. Would definitely be fun to play around with.

For practical use, though, it seems to me to be an answer without a question. It's really too unwieldy to use as a pistol, and without the stability of a stocked carbine. I suppose it's a way to get an SBR without the fee, but without the ability to put a shoulder stock on it, you lose some of the rationale for the "long range" capability. I prefer my compact AR.

Far be it from me, however, to gainsay those who do have a good use for it. You can just never have too many guns, and, to borrow a phrase from Kinky Friedman, "Why the hell not?"
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I have a Bushmaster Carbon 15. Have handled and shot the kel-tec - and am still glad I spent the extra $$$.

They're both toys - in small spaces, I'll stick with my Hk-51 clone SBR ;0
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