HotGuns

Even if the bullet didnt actually penetrate the glass...it would still have enough energy to knock at least some of the scope parts right through your eyeball.

Even if the bullet didnt kill you, but the glass did, what difference would it make?

FWIW,I have no problem believing that a .30 FMJ would go though that scope like a hot knife through butter.

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.45forme

Ive watched it. The scopes were new style scopes.I could not tell what kind of ammo they used. So my question. Did they use ball ammo. But it was a good show. And I know Marines dont lie. So the tale is Plausable.

lowflyer

Did you watch the show? Bullets went into the scope, but nothing at all hit the dummy.

I think they used the wrong types of scopes for the test myself. They used 10x scopes. I think if they had used lower power scopes as would have been used back then, the convex curve on the glass would have been flatter offering a better chance for a straight shot through the tube. The older scopes don't have as much glass in them and the tubes are pretty much straight with no angles inside like the 3 x 9 hunting scopes they tested.

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PatrioticRick

Watched show about an hour ago, all they proved is that they couldn't do it. Maybe if they used the lasers like on the the other test, they could have had a direct hit without the human error.

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raevan

Well if they had used an old russian scope or chinese of that era they probably would have had a different result. The optics back then used a lower grade of glass, most now either use a form of plastic or hardened glass to avoid the lense from breaking if slammed against something.

joker581

They proved that they couldn't do it, not that it can't be done.

IIRC, they also proved that they couldn't make a crossbow out of materials available to prisoners, but it has been done by convicts several times. Another show on the Discovery Channel showed a demonstration of one in a prison.

devilmutt

I'll take GySgt Hathcock's word over these two.

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goawayfarm

They were using late model scopes (variable power) which have 8-10 lenses. The scopes also were large objective diameter, which means the lenses are thicker in the middle than older model scopes with smaller diameter lenses & less number of lenses.

After one of the shots the did, when the scope was shown the bullet had gone thru ALL but the last lens.

It just goes to show....you can't believe everything you see on TV, especially when it involves guns & comes from California.

Don't get me wrong....I enjoy their show, but just like NBCs Dateline I trust it about as far as can throw it.

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goawayfarm

This guy even put a Weaver scope on a M2 .50BMG & used it for LLLLLOOONNNGGG range shooting during Vietnam.

He eventually was seriously burned when he saved a bunch of Marines who were in a burning APC.

Good man, I met him once back in the early 90s.

His story is one well worth knowing.

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Nate

I met GySgt. Hathcock, too - but it was White Feather's son, who was a marksmanship instructor on Okinawa at the time. Very interesting lineage, indeed. I'm inclined to take the good gunny's word on it, but then again, I'm just a wee bit biased.