Stetson

I don't call one purcahse a month to easy! I would not want to be in
a place that limited me to purchase a product.How un American !!
What's next??

rstickle

Well, playing devil's advocate...... Something sure went wrong in VA! This guy shouldn't have been let in a gun shop, let alone be able to walk out with a pistol... Twice!

If we can figure out how to keep people like this from making purchases it will eventually make life a lot easier for the rest of us!

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Rick

EOD - Initial success or total failure

vernonator

They would freak at the IA laws. You apply for your "permit to buy" from the county sherriff. He does a background check and if all is good sends you a permit that is valid for 1 yr....at that point there is no further wait or check. You can (and I have) walk in and buy 3 firearms and walk out with them. These all apply to handguns, longguns if you dont have a permit they run a NCIS check and if clean you walk out with your purchase

peacefuljeffrey

As far as I can tell, it's only marginally easier than it is in Florida.

If you want a handgun in Florida, just like anywhere else you have to
- provide positive identification
- undergo the NICS background check

But unlike in Virginia, you have to wait (I think it's) 5 days to take possession of the handgun, unless you have a valid concealed weapon license. If you have the license, you can take the gun with you immediately.

5 day waiting periods do NOTHING to stop violence. The only person they may delay from shooting someone is the person who is buying his very first gun and does not already have one, capishe? The reason being, he could just use one of the guns he already has, rather than the one he's gone to buy, if he's that hotheaded at that very moment.

This murderer Cho in Virginia, he simmered with his psychosis for so long, he bought a second gun under Virginia's "one-gun-a-month" law! So tell me again why the speed of the gun purchase is an issue? He waited over a month after getting his first gun, long enough to get a second one; so what would a five-day wait have done on either gun?!

The simple fact is that nothing coming from the left on this issue makes any practical sense about how to either prevent this kind of atrocity, or deal with it once it is under way.

(Please stop referring to it as a "tragedy," as tragedy strongly implies that it was something that "just happened," like a tornado or illness or earthquake or car wreck. Tragedy implies NO-FAULT. This was an ATROCITY.)

peacefuljeffrey

This is one of the most important points regarding this atrocity.

One thing they keep harping on is that this attack now holds the record for the highest death toll of any mass shooting in the U.S.

What they keep failing to report is that, even with the September 11 attacks aside, this shooting does not claim the highest death toll of any mass murder in the U.S.

I may be out-of-date with my stats, but as far as I know, the arson at the Happyland Social Club still has that "distinction." This cuban immigrant, angry that his girlfriend had broken up with him, doused the entrance to an illegal (surprise surprise) immigrant social club with gasoline and burned it, killing 87 people. (Sometimes the death toll is said to be higher, because according to this article, he was sentenced for 184 counts of murder, two for each victim killed. I don't know the rationale for that, though.) My information comes from this article.

So yes, indeed, even if we could deny access to firearms to every single human being on the planet, we would still have mass murders, and many of the alternate, non-gun means to doing so would produce far higher body counts. The anti-gunners are just fools for believing that no-guns will equal no-murder.

Steve48

In Kansas, you can buy as many as you want. Steve48

kentuckycarry

I bought 2 guns last week in the same day here in Ky. As of last summer, my ccw permit is my background check. Without a permit, you just fill out a paper, they call in a background check and you're out the door.
No matter how long it takes to get the gun, anyone like this guy is going to do what he has to do. The guy waited another month to buy the second gun.. No waiting period is going to make a difference, or no limit on how many you can buy will make a difference.

Janq

What went wrong is the VT administration did not take the kids writing professors comments & fears seriously. They did not follow through on a review of his writings as truned over to them by his teacher.
The VT campus police dropped he ball when not one but _two_ girls came to them with reports of being stalked by this same kid.
Hell even both his roomates were afraid of him and di not care to be alone in the same room with the guy, per their own statements.

None of that had anything to do with VA or national gun laws.
The ball was dropped by VT, plain and simple.

Next time they are told by staff that a kid is acting crazy and writing crazy stuff I bet the universitys counselors will actually do something.
next time a student reports to the VT police that they have an on campus stalker they will take that seriously as well. I mean hell after the first two students were found shot dead they say that they choose not to alert students or go into locakdown because they thought ehhh it's all over, most victims know their attacker, and the attacker they figure has left the campus because he'd be crazy to stick around. Yep. Crazy.

This incident is less os much about guns but moreso to do with mentalhealth, policies & procedures to recognize and support those with issues, and protocol toward emergency preperation toward schools and students.

- Janq

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"Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy
Monday, March 12, 2007 -- Op Ed -- The Washington Post

gregma

You are missing one part (at least in the reports I've seen.)

This attack now holds the record for the highest death toll of any mass shooing in the U.S. *on a school ground*.

The "On a school ground" is what is missing. And I believe that is the case. Makes sense too since that is one of the few places nutcases can be assured of no armed resistance!

Thanks!
Greg

MD_Willington

You mark the box that says you're not an US citizen, you put where you were born in the boxes below.

You put your SSN or TID in the Social Security box

You the answer the "yes" & "no" questions... <-- Cho lied here

At the bottom of page 1 on the 4473, you add your A#


I did this last night, took a whole 5 minutes for my background check... keep in mind I have all kinds of background checks already on file do to permits, licenses and my occupation.