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The only people who support the idea that 'banning guns will stop killing' are the ones who are anti-gun anyway. They aren't using fact & intellect to come to their decision. They are using emotion.
Man has been killing since Cain killed Able......& guess what? HE DIDN'T USE A GUN! Bare hands, rocks, sticks & clubs, sharp implements, arrows, explosives or even poison, have all sufficed in man's quest to kill his fellow man. Guns are just another tool in that arsenal of creativity that man has come up with. However, guns now have a stigma that used to belong to the sword or knife in previous centuries. What would follow the gun ban? Sword & knife bans.....then what? Dirty looks! So if guns were MAGICALLY banned tomorrow, as in the UK, we would have a huge increase in crime. I say that for two basic reasons: 1) Criminals would no longer fear unarmed victims, there wouldn't be ANY armed ones! 2) Man's ingenuity would come up with new ways to take life. (pass me the phaser please.....)
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Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. If I have a gun, what do I have to be paranoid about?" -Clint Smith "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Jeff Cooper |
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Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it. ![]() Reports: CZ P01 pt1, pt2. Thoughts: Justifiable self defense. Reality: Disarming citizens only results in more victims. Tip: Use the <search> feature.
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I read some stats about it on the publication called Gun Facts 4.1, and there appears to be no correlation between gun bans and suicide rates. In other words, what everyone else said... if you're gonna off yourself, you'll find a way.
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The most infamous "single event" mass murder in American history on civilians was perpetrated with BOX CUTTERS! It could sure have been stopped PDQ if the pilots had been armed with handguns, though!
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Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.
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Of course it would.
Of course it would help. The news says so. Everyone knows that guns kill people all by themselves. (Sarcasm off!)
Hell. CARS kill more people than guns, and they're not even designed to do it. Lets not get into how many people are killed by Malboros and cheeseburgers. Isn't it also odd that all the noted gun grabbers have armed protection details? |
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Aside from the results of this study which has been posted multiple times prior, the simple answer as per multiple sources is a definite 'No'.
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The World Health Organization http://www.who.int/mental_health/pre...iciderates/en/ * Take note of the US rate (male & female) as compared to others including nations where guns are restricted if not banned. We are not even in the top 10 as relative to others. As well for those unfamiliar with the WHO (World Health Organization) the following is an explanation of who they are and their mission... Quote:
Anyone who seeks out and follows the facts would know/not believe that gun laws affect suicide rates. - Janq
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Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder And Suicide?
NO.. we're top of the food chain.. we can figure things out...
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There are a lot of ways to murder people!!! Steve48
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I for one cannot believe that our forum membership could question the premise . After all we have gun free utopias such as DC or NY , or dammed near any metro area in the east ( or extreme west ) and all of them are violence free utopias where no one tramples on another or messily commits suicide . as soon as the " thought police " get up and start enforceing the " hate crime " enhancments to statutes well we will be ok as a nation .
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