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Old May 25th, 2007, 02:09 PM   #11
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For farm/ranch use give some serious consideration to a S&W ( used if you can find for the price ) or Taurus 4 or 6" .357 . 4" if your going to ccw , and stay to the k frame size for ccw . With .357 loads you can handle coyotes ballisticly further out than you are likely to hit them , and you can stick .38 special target loads ( wadcutters ect ) in it and pot rabbits and other meat of opportunity ( only in season of course LOL ) without wastage . Really tho if your going to ranch or do ranch work you should consider ( when finances allow ) a " farm gun " and a " town gun " since the farm gun is going to be more geared towards hunting , and the town gun more towards concealable defense .
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Old May 25th, 2007, 03:55 PM   #12
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I paid less than $400.00 for this:



DISCLAIMER: The ambidextrous safety is NOT standard. I added it later. Also, this is the 10mm version. My pistol was originally a .45ACP. I bought a conversion kit and switched it later.

You can buy this in any of the following calibers: 9mm, .38 Super, .40S&W, 10mm autopistol, and .45ACP.

If you can't find one locally, I'd suggest Reeds Ammunition and Research
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Old May 25th, 2007, 07:46 PM   #13
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Old May 25th, 2007, 08:28 PM   #14
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I've Been Looking At This Beretta 8000...

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Have you thought about the Beretta 8000 "Cougar"?

I have one and its really a nice firearm. Completely made in Italy too.
Mine in is 9mm and it about as accurate as a 9mm Carbine!

Also has a chrome lined bore and chamber for any dirt and grim you get in it.

Hi cap mags and holsters are cheap and easy ti find. I know some LEO dept. even carry them.


Now a bad 9mm for the price...might be just what you were looking for...

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Old May 26th, 2007, 06:20 AM   #15
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Well... Let me ask you all this. If I am looking to take out something like a coyote, and my choices were "limited" to 40 S&W or .45 ACP would there be a real difference between the two?

I understand the caliber wars issue in respects to how the rounds effect human targets, but not so much so with other animals.
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Well... Let me ask you all this. If I am looking to take out something like a coyote, and my choices were "limited" to 40 S&W or .45 ACP would there be a real difference between the two?

I understand the caliber wars issue in respects to how the rounds effect human targets, but not so much so with other animals.
I really doubt it when it coems to an animal the size of a dog.

But let me ask you this, why do you want to kill Cyotes so bad?
They are wonderful animals.
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Well, you are putting words in my mouth; I don't want to shoot anything. I want to be prepared for anything; coyotes tend to mind their own, so odds are I'll never need to put one down. I simply mention coyotes because I don't know of any larger animal I need to worry about; everything else (like badgers, for example) are smaller, and simplier to kill.

I just don't want to be shooting with a sub-par caliber.
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Well, you are putting words in my mouth; I don't want to shoot anything. I want to be prepared for anything; coyotes tend to mind their own, so odds are I'll never need to put one down. I simply mention coyotes because I don't know of any larger animal I need to worry about; everything else (like badgers, for example) are smaller, and simplier to kill.

I just don't want to be shooting with a sub-par caliber.
I see what you mean.

Yea, when I used to go hiking in the rockies, I wanted to carry something that would put down a bear if I needed to. But I didnt actually want to shooot a bear.
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I post another vote for the Rock Island 1911. Mine has been flawless and as cheap as they are they're hard to beat.

I would suggest a Springfield GI, but it's over the $400 mark unless you find a use one.

Most any used Ruger revolver can be had under $400, as can a lot of used Ruger autos come to think of it.
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+1 on the Cougar 8000, held one and loved it. $320 @ Sportsman Warehouse.
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