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Old December 8th, 2007, 10:09 PM   #11
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As for security, the body of the safe is the weak spot, not the door, or lock. Now, ask yourself how much you would trust a battery powered electronic trigger on your EDC?
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Old December 9th, 2007, 12:55 AM   #12
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As for security, the body of the safe is the weak spot, not the door, or lock. Now, ask yourself how much you would trust a battery powered electronic trigger on your EDC?
Very good point. I think I will stick with the old tried and true dial lock.
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Old December 9th, 2007, 08:27 PM   #13
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I have a dial set up and I like it better than the electronic ones I have seen. I am thinking on calling the Mfg and see if I can't custom order another safe with the same combo
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Old December 9th, 2007, 09:15 PM   #14
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When I was researching my safe purchase, I talked with an acquaintance who used to sell safes. His insight on the differences was that the electronic keypads were easier to see and operate, you can set the numbers to whatever you want after delivery, and it doesn't require a locksmith if you forget the combo. The negatives were the need for batteries/electricity, and if you never change the combo, eventually the keypad wear will reveal the numbers in the combo. He said they were about the same in terms of reliability, and were not the weak spot in the safe. The weak spot (according to him) was the walls of the safe. His advice was to get the thickest steel walls you could, and not worry about the rest.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 01:29 PM   #15
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When I was researching my safe purchase, I talked with an acquaintance who used to sell safes. His insight on the differences was that the electronic keypads were easier to see and operate, you can set the numbers to whatever you want after delivery, and it doesn't require a locksmith if you forget the combo. The negatives were the need for batteries/electricity, and if you never change the combo, eventually the keypad wear will reveal the numbers in the combo. He said they were about the same in terms of reliability, and were not the weak spot in the safe. The weak spot (according to him) was the walls of the safe. His advice was to get the thickest steel walls you could, and not worry about the rest.
So a safe cracking search on U-Tube there are a heap of video's there. Some on the hammer it open method, and some on how easy it is to override the electronic combination system, me I'll stick with the dial.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 01:33 PM   #16
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I believe in the dial combination locks myself. I just despise thinking about the ways an electronic lock could fail, and with my system for operating the dial combo lock---it's better and faster.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #17
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Have a Fort Knox gun safe with a dial lock. Really not sure that any "improvements" are needed on this set up. Basics always work.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 07:22 PM   #18
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I have a Ft. Knox with the excellent dial by Sargent & Greenleaf. I would do it again. Not as fast as electronic but I guess I am still old fashioned.
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