Beautiful Jeff Cooper custom from Ed Brown (pics inside!) - Page 2

NCHornet · January 5th, 2008, 08:57 AM

I believe Mr Cooper would want you to shoot this gun!!
I am not a 45 ACP fan but that is a nice looking gun!!
NCH

LongRider · January 5th, 2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by LVLabs

Really nice. I guess tho I can't see spending that type of coin on a safe queen as I doubt one should shoot it unless very, very little. I don't think I would and if you do shot it doesn't or wouldn't the value (momento, collector value) go way down?

My question to this is, would you use it, shoot it, carry it or is this just a nice momento and discussion glass case piece for when friends are over? I am sure the answers will be mixed but personally, I'd rather have the special forces model as I would use and abuse that one and think Jeff Cooper would approve of that.

Also, do you think Jeff Cooper would consider this pistol useable and/or do you think he would like the fact that the pistol is a commemorative for him and would he be ok with it or did he/does he approve of items like this?

It is not far out of his normal price point. $100 more than than the Special Forces model. If you take into account the $150 limited Edition book it is actually $50 less than the Special Forces model. I sure do not see why it would not be an excellent performing weapon. I would give it the respect that kind of craftsmanship deserves and shoot it often. IMO buying a gun you won't shoot is about as stupid as buying a motorcycle you can't ride cross country. Can't ride it or shoot it why have it? That said seems to me that Ed Brown's real beauty is in the performance and reliability of his guns.

DasBoot · January 5th, 2008, 06:38 PM

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Can't ride it or shoot it why have it?

I can see both sides to this and agree with both to some degree.
I see nothing wrong with owning something purely for its aesthetic beauty and having no intention of using it for its intended purpose.
My Harley is well ridden, my guitars well played and my guns well shot, but one can make the case that, strictly as a work of art, some things retain their beauty whether used or not.
I found a WWII Luger in a relatives house years back.
I'll never shoot it.
But I love to look at it and enjoy the faces on those I show it to that have never seen or handled one.
Then again, I hate the thought of all of those vintage Strats, Les Pauls and Harleys the Japanese gobbled up strictly for speculation.
That being said, use the darn thing and enjoy it!

Ti Carry · January 5th, 2008, 08:30 PM

Personally, I wouldn't shoot this gun so then I wouldn't buy it either. I agree the gun seems to be a good deal in comparison but this one has the potential to gain in value if kept original and unfired with everything that came with it in perfect condition like the kids I grew up with would buy two comic book's, read one and put on in plastic and stored it with the rest of them, today I can't believe how much those same comic books can go for and I thought they were stupid for saving them like that. Same with baseball cards or anything like that.

So I see this is as just a conversation piece even though a couple grand isn't a lot and even though it's the great Jeff Cooper, I don't care for or like autographs from anyone, I don't get it, I never have nor do I care for it on the slide at all. That in and of itself would make me feel strange about shooting this gun.

I'd love to have it but I agree, at least for me this is a glass case piece that would sit next to the humidor full of cigars and custom crystal scotch decanter in my office with the mohogany desk and leather chair and swords on the wall.

Ti

QKShooter · January 5th, 2008, 10:06 PM

Yep, Ed Brown. They do put together a beautiful firearm.
Extreme high quality.

raevan · January 5th, 2008, 10:07 PM

If I had the money and I would buy it, I also would shoot it. I know that using a collectable item makes it lose its value, but in this case I don't think its value in the future will be that much decreased unless it is shot till it's worn out. Since I have other pistols that get shot, that one would get used but not abused and it would still have great value 20 or 30 years from now.

Pitmaster · January 6th, 2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ti Carry

Personally, I wouldn't shoot this gun so then I wouldn't buy it either. I agree the gun seems to be a good deal in comparison but this one has the potential to gain in value if kept original and unfired with everything that came with it in perfect condition like the kids I grew up with would buy two comic book's, read one and put on in plastic and stored it with the rest of them, today I can't believe how much those same comic books can go for and I thought they were stupid for saving them like that. Same with baseball cards or anything like that.

Personally, I would buy two. Use one and keep one.

Ti Carry · January 6th, 2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitmaster

Personally, I would buy two. Use one and keep one.

Oh, for sure, just like the comic book example i was talking about. I am not against that at all. In fact, I think it is the best way to go with something like this, keep and preserve one and play with the other.

My only hang up would be the autograph on the slide, don't like it, I think it's weird. Jeff Cooper isn't but i'm not into asking for anyones autograph or having one on a slide of a 1911 to use. A hand shake works for me if I am meeting someone famous or whatever.

Ti

Supertac45 · January 6th, 2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunney

I think that he setting up there with Saint Peter and laughing so hard that tears are rolling down his cheeks.

You got this right.

LongRider · January 9th, 2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot

That being said, use the darn thing and enjoy it!

Yep ride it, shoot the hell out of it the kids don't need no damn inheritance anyway. It'll just make em weak

January 5th, 2008, 08:57 AM	#11
NCHornet Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mt Airy, NC Posts: 1,403	I believe Mr Cooper would want you to shoot this gun!! I am not a 45 ACP fan but that is a nice looking gun!! NCH __________________ Carry On!! NCHornet

January 5th, 2008, 08:30 PM	#14
Ti Carry VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Under Cover Posts: 2,035	Personally, I wouldn't shoot this gun so then I wouldn't buy it either. I agree the gun seems to be a good deal in comparison but this one has the potential to gain in value if kept original and unfired with everything that came with it in perfect condition like the kids I grew up with would buy two comic book's, read one and put on in plastic and stored it with the rest of them, today I can't believe how much those same comic books can go for and I thought they were stupid for saving them like that. Same with baseball cards or anything like that. So I see this is as just a conversation piece even though a couple grand isn't a lot and even though it's the great Jeff Cooper, I don't care for or like autographs from anyone, I don't get it, I never have nor do I care for it on the slide at all. That in and of itself would make me feel strange about shooting this gun. I'd love to have it but I agree, at least for me this is a glass case piece that would sit next to the humidor full of cigars and custom crystal scotch decanter in my office with the mohogany desk and leather chair and swords on the wall. Ti __________________ Train and train hard, you might not get a second chance to make a first impression! I vote for Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President.....Not!

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January 5th, 2008, 10:07 PM	#16
raevan VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: washington Posts: 4,028	If I had the money and I would buy it, I also would shoot it. I know that using a collectable item makes it lose its value, but in this case I don't think its value in the future will be that much decreased unless it is shot till it's worn out. Since I have other pistols that get shot, that one would get used but not abused and it would still have great value 20 or 30 years from now.