Ghettokracker71

Or XD with grip safety,...BUT no excuses or firearms to make up for stupidity.

kpw

Nope, it seems the common way to retrieve said pistol that is hanging on the hook, is to grab it by the grip and push/lift up. Remember, the stupid will always find a way. Ron White has it right...

Ghettokracker71

Good point,kpw,...Stupidity will always 'prevail' in a situation like that,lol. One thing I don't like about XDs/1911s is that newer owners seem to get into "bad" habits as they are lazier by the 'comforting' extra safeties...

ccman

Stupid is as stupid does.

DOGOFWAR01

IMHO - Without all the facts, pointing a finger at the Deputy's age is fairly narrowed minded.

It is nearly like me saying, the only folks that should carry guns live the in Rocky Mountain States.

It is nearly like me saying, No Peace Officers of any level (Federal, State, County, or City) should be allowed to carry guns. Only allowed to carry whistles like bobbies in the UK. The whistle blowing would bring the armed response to the land of action - an USA Citizen CCW.

Some Peace Officers train all they can, even at their own expense and own time. Some Peace Officers will only show upfor their required qualification, after being reminded more than 3 times.

Most CCW USA Citizens, I know carry, practice, and attend formal training more than most Peace Officers I know.

Job Titles, Patches, Badges, Uniforms, etc does not replace real world training and experience.

Based on what information provided, I would not use age as a cause, I would use poor habits (Deputy probably has done this numerous times - workplace incident), on-the-job safety, firearms training (his Dept's responsibility as his employer - County Sheriff). Should he or any other Deputy's in this Dept be allowed to carry guns ?

If a non-Peace Officer USA Citizen had this happen, would he or she have been charged or what ?

Knuckledrager

Dog,

Please don't misunderstand the point of my post. I was not suggesting that the age of the gun toter was a direct causative factor. I was pointing out that if he had been on the job for 35 years as the article stated, he received his basic firearms training a while ago. Firearms training, as a whole, was not as comprehensive then as it is (should be) today. I was speaking (writing) to the concept that if a student isn't exposed to things in training, they are less likely to act a certain way in the real world. How to secure your weapon while on the throne is something that needs to be addressed during the lecture part of firearms training and that it needs to be specific to type of issued equipment and nature of the job.

KD

__________________
If not me, who? If not now, when?, Joseph Ruffini

GBS

How many years did he have to get it right?
And I agree, it probably was a Glock.

__________________
A Warrior of Light cannot always choose his battlefield.

MattLarson

Double action, safe action, manual safety and grip safety together are no substitute for what this guy was lacking - an iota of common sense.

Hanging a loaded firearm by the trigger guard is plain idiotic, no matter what design it is.

Matt

__________________
Hope is not a plan.

DOGOFWAR01

The Deputy probably started out with a double action revolver - long pull taking 10-12 # to fire. This AD was probably with a semi-auto, if I "guess" I would guess a Glock with 5.5 # trigger pull (guess due to the AD and widespread use of Glock with Peace Officer Depts).

This action is a direct reflection on the quality and quantity of firearms training (initial and refresher), qualification, and certification by the Peace Officer Dept. Again if I "guess", I concur these types of situations were not lectured on by the instructor, discussed by the class, demonstrated by the instructor, and practiced by the students in the class. Blue / Red Guns, Unloaded Guns, Loaded Guns then Live Fire into Target from sitting in a chair on the range - Just like one was on the throne - pants down.

This training as with all training should be accomplished in whatever "duty" outfit and rig is normally worn and again accomplished in whatever "off-duty" outfit and rig is normally worn.

All is just another topic for "Peace Officer Safety". P.S. All this really applies to "anyone carrying a handgun" - for whatever reason - regardless of their job.

Just plain lucky no one was hurt or killed.

Arisin Wind

Stupid is becoming more common.