Thinking EBRs and future AWB stuff - Page 2

maclean3 · February 16th, 2008, 03:46 AM

The AR-15 lower can also be used for .50 Beowulf if you want to go large bore.
Jack

Bob The Great · February 16th, 2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by maclean3

The AR-15 lower can also be used for .50 Beowulf if you want to go large bore.
Jack

Or a .50BMG if you go single-shot or side-mounted mag-fed.

Scott · February 16th, 2008, 01:46 PM

So I have a question about stocking up on EBRs or lowers. Is it for the investment to make money or is it so you can build multiple copies of an AR if a ban gets passed?

aus71383 · February 16th, 2008, 02:21 PM

I won't be selling mine if that answers your question!

Austin

Bob The Great · February 16th, 2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott

So I have a question about stocking up on EBRs or lowers. Is it for the investment to make money or is it so you can build multiple copies of an AR if a ban gets passed?

Yes.

In all honesty, here's my logic.

If there's no ban, I will have one lower to build for my gf if she wants, and one to build into a bolt-action .50 if I so choose.

If there is a ban, I will still have one lower to build for my gf, and I can decide whether to keep the other one or sell it to help finance a single-shot lower and .50 upper.

I'm not going to just buy up a bunch of stuff I have no use for, but future sales is definitely a motivator.

sojourner · February 17th, 2008, 12:23 AM

You might want to think of buying magazines also. Just as important.

Just a question and not trying to be difficult. Do you think it is possible that a new "ban" would possibly ban uppers or lower parts kits, therefore making it just as impossible to build an AR post-ban? I know the stripped lower is technically considered the "firearm", but might it still be possible that other parts of the firearm be banned (just like detachable magazines with capacity greater than 10 were banned under klinton)? I could foresee that happening. I hope I am wrong and somebody will correct my concerns.

Bob The Great · February 17th, 2008, 12:30 AM

I think that would be very difficult to do, since barrels and parts kits can be considered replacement parts with no alternatives. Then again, they froze the supply of machine guns in '86, so who knows. I'm pretty certain the serialized components would be first on the list though.

mchasal · February 19th, 2008, 07:00 PM

I would just caution you about making too many assumptions about a law that doesn't exist yet. You're assuming that there will be a grandfather clause, and that it will apply to stripped lowers. The law could end up requiring the surrender of "assault weapons", turning them in for ballistics fingerprinting (with just as much chance as never seeing it again), or require that they be built out into full rifles to be grandfathered.

Buzzkill ;)

raevan · February 19th, 2008, 07:19 PM

Well if there is a ban I will worry about it then, for now I will continue buying as many weapons as my measly retirement check will allow. Everytime I get a little extra money it goes towards weapons or ammo. Right now I am more concerned about the serialization of ammo they are trying to pass in multiple states. When they try and pass a bann we will deal with it then. That being said, if you have the money, buy as many as you can plus ammo .

kazzaerexys · February 19th, 2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mchasal

I would just caution you about making too many assumptions about a law that doesn't exist yet.

Well, that is the point. I am making assumptions, and I know it. I am assuming that the thing that is the currently regulated firearm will be the immediate target of new legislation. I am also assuming a grandfather clause, yes.

So, I am weighing the risk that I am wrong and I lose my investment entirely against the risk of elevated prices if my own betting strategy turns out to be right and prices on lowers soar when an old-style AWB comes back.

Furthermore, I can afford to be wrong to the tune of a few hundred dollars for lowers. I can't afford to be wrong by buying four complete rifles now. I am not trying to insist that this is the right betting strategy for everyone, though.

February 16th, 2008, 03:46 AM	#11
maclean3 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,876	The AR-15 lower can also be used for .50 Beowulf if you want to go large bore. Jack __________________ "The sheep are everywhere. We are raising up a nation of cannon fodder types and we are screwed." HotGuns

February 16th, 2008, 01:46 PM	#13
Scott Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Old Dominion Posts: 4,434	So I have a question about stocking up on EBRs or lowers. Is it for the investment to make money or is it so you can build multiple copies of an AR if a ban gets passed? __________________ Obamamessiah... Let the miracles begin!!!

February 17th, 2008, 12:30 AM	#17
Bob The Great Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 1,451	I think that would be very difficult to do, since barrels and parts kits can be considered replacement parts with no alternatives. Then again, they froze the supply of machine guns in '86, so who knows. I'm pretty certain the serialized components would be first on the list though. __________________ "A well-educated electorate, being necessary to the continuance of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed." Is this hard to understand? Then why does it get unintelligible to some people when 5 little words are changed?

February 19th, 2008, 07:00 PM	#18
mchasal Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Posts: 67	I would just caution you about making too many assumptions about a law that doesn't exist yet. You're assuming that there will be a grandfather clause, and that it will apply to stripped lowers. The law could end up requiring the surrender of "assault weapons", turning them in for ballistics fingerprinting (with just as much chance as never seeing it again), or require that they be built out into full rifles to be grandfathered. Buzzkill ;) __________________ I am not a Lawyer, LEO, or Special Forces Operator. The writings above are not burdened by trivialities such as research, experience or facts. However, it is on the Internet, so it must be true.

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February 16th, 2008, 02:21 PM	#14
aus71383 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 1,691	I won't be selling mine if that answers your question! Austin

February 17th, 2008, 12:23 AM	#16
sojourner Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: PA Posts: 977	You might want to think of buying magazines also. Just as important. Just a question and not trying to be difficult. Do you think it is possible that a new "ban" would possibly ban uppers or lower parts kits, therefore making it just as impossible to build an AR post-ban? I know the stripped lower is technically considered the "firearm", but might it still be possible that other parts of the firearm be banned (just like detachable magazines with capacity greater than 10 were banned under klinton)? I could foresee that happening. I hope I am wrong and somebody will correct my concerns.

February 19th, 2008, 07:19 PM	#19
raevan VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: washington Posts: 4,028	Well if there is a ban I will worry about it then, for now I will continue buying as many weapons as my measly retirement check will allow. Everytime I get a little extra money it goes towards weapons or ammo. Right now I am more concerned about the serialization of ammo they are trying to pass in multiple states. When they try and pass a bann we will deal with it then. That being said, if you have the money, buy as many as you can plus ammo .