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I feel bad for everyone here, I am sorry but the kids story does not add up, and there will not be an indictment, "sneaking up quietly" on the partygoers, who were playing music so loud that they could be heard several blocks away? There was no need for stealth in the neighbors yard, and certainly no need to come close to the house at all if they were going to the "party". How is it the parent of the child had to be woken up was the other house so far away that she did not hear the gunshot? And why didnt the "shooting victim" call 911? I will tell you what I think, they knew they were going to get into trouble for trying to break into the old folks home. As a nurse her first thought was to rush them herself to the hospital, good mom, except she should have also called 911 and told them she was bringing in a gunshot victim. My child comes home with a gunshot YES I AM RUSHING THEM MYSELF TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT I AM ALSO CALLING AHEAD SO I KNOW MY CHILD IS GOING TO GET INSTANT TREATMENT FROM A PREPARED STAFF. 15 year olds should know better than to sneek around a house at night, again you have to ask yourself why would the kids be so close to that window, if they were trying to sneak up on the partygoers? In defense of the kids, maybe just maybe they were trying to use the house of the old folks as cover/concealment in their "Quest to sneak up on the partygoers" again why you need to sneak up on them? Last edited by Southtexas; March 7th, 2008 at 04:17 AM. Reason: merged a quote from above with post so as not to double post |
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From info presented, I don't believe this senior is going to prison. To me, the kids were close enough to the window (a few feet or less?) and acting in a suspicious enough manner (climbing the fence, sneaking around the porch) that I would reasonably believe they were planning to break into the residence.
Kids story about only wanting to see the party next door is plausible, but there is no real way to confirm it. They could have been intending to break in, burglarize the house, and beat the occupants? I don;t think it matters what they say there intent was, I judge them by their actions and: They acted like burglars in the night, and that is the sort of thing that gets you shot in Texas. Drunk driving is one of the true evils of our society. |
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Update!
Well, knock me over with a feather...sounds like I was off base on this one. The Kaufman GJ actually indicted! I still stand by my original post #17, but I did NOT think he would actually be indicted...here's the story.Kaufman County man indicted in shooting of teen who crossed yard | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | Latest News
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So, it turns out, a Texas GJ is capable of giving a 'True Bill'. Who woulda thought? I'm just wondering how much the True Bill had to do with the actual shooting/situation, and how much of it had to do with the Mother dying while taking the boy to the hospital.
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Just cause they indicted doesn't mean he will be found guilty at trial
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You are right, and I do not believe he will be found guilty. It does however mean he must retain an attorney and go through a trial. Not exactly a story-book ending.
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Property rights are about respecting the rights and safety of others, as well as their property lines. If someone were a perceived threat to my family, I'd react similarly, whether they were 55, 25, 15, or 10. Plenty of under-aged gang-bangers; I'm not asking for ID and parental referrences. You don't belong here, you know you don't belong here, you play the dice as they land. If it doesn't play to your favor, blame your parents for not raising you fit for civilized company. Yes, I said civilized; property rights are one of the fundamental principles of our Constitution, and shouldn't be blown off by any emotional reaction because someone old enough to know better (but whose parents failed) got himself hurt due to his deliberate disregard of other's rights. If it wasn't deliberate, and he didn't know, why was he "skulking?" Rant, rant, I know, but I'm sick of hearing "He was such a GOOD BOY!" every time something happens to some under-aged punk with a history. As long as society keeps making excuses and apologies, we produce more of them; as soon as "they" are on their own, "they" will quickly learn. They aren't stupid, they're spoiled and coddled for acting stupid. OK, enough. Stay safe, Chuck Brick.
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Stay safe, Chuck Brick.
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Hey, Chuck...keep your bloody floodlight away from my window!
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There havbe been an interesting number of articles lately in sociology and psych journals about the "Juvenile-Adult Male in Modern America." Essentially, without the demand for establishing stability (self-sufficiency through employment, home-ownership/rental, family, etc..) modern males are societally being encouraged to be Pokemon-trading, Warcraft-playing, Wi-enabled children into their 30s. Actions have consequences. Seniors in Dallas County rarely engage in gang activity, but they are the most common victims of property crime and (IIRC) the 3rd most common victims of personal assault.
Sad? Yes. But to paraphrase Ronnie Johns, "Grow the **** up, junior!" Statistically the threat to the 70 y/o property owners is far greater than junior's need to surreptitiously cross property to party. An assumption on my parts, but if mom didn't perform primary care and call Dallas EMS (some of the best in the nation), I would be inclined to view her as an "enabeler" rather than a directional force for junior. I may, of course, be well off the mark... |
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