Only 17 minute response! Active shooter near my house!

MR D · March 5th, 2008, 07:35 PM

this afternoon was awakened from my catatonic stupor in front of the computer by the sounds of gunfire...

heard first one - went to make sure wife was okay... then second and third

went out side to see if in town or out...

boom boom two houses down on other side of street!

came in house told wife top call 911 went to safe got out AR and 2 mags and Sig and two mags... leave those in the house with wife (I carry .357 24/7 where legal)

all in all between twenty and twenty five rounds fired

dispatch wanted to know who was shooting and address...

I got on cell and went out got description of two (of three) guy shooting long gun in backyard - dispatch hears several shots...

one guy hands other the gun and he sees me standing partially exposed by corner of my house and sweeps me with the muzzle...

I drop cell as I am stepping out of view, inform dispatch that I was just swept and that if they shoot at me I will return fire - he says - "now don't do that - it will only make things worse for you"

deputies arrive in record time (just about 17 minutes) (last time took 40)

deputy pulls in my drive (I inform him that I am licensed and armed - he doesn't seem to care) gets descriptions and waits for back-up
they went over and checked out where the shooting was going on and then drove off after five minutes or so...

of course the shooters have seen me and have left in a hurry

spoke to neighbors, they are aware and know to call if they hear anything unusual coming from my house for the next few days...

anyone hiring? I need a new job so I can move - KY TN might work - (I would prefer TX)

packinnova · March 5th, 2008, 08:16 PM

The dispatch response of "don't do that" is expected at this point. It seems they're always telling folks to lay down and die while they talk them through how to properly die on the phone. As for the rest...glad you're ok. Stay safe and sleep with an eye open for a while.

Kaymen · March 5th, 2008, 08:17 PM

As a 911 dispatcher, I have heard several people say that if you can't do anything about it I will. Now I am a firm believer in self defense but I don't want to hear someone say this, mainly because everything you say is recorded and it can be used against you in a court of law. Why hand the prosecutor more ammo to use against you. Just call report the facts, make sure you and your family is secure, and wait for law enforcement.

MR D · March 5th, 2008, 08:26 PM

the reason I told him I would return fire was because I had just told him the gun was now in my direction and I was retreating (sorry I wasn't totally clear)

I wanted it on the record btw

IANAL but I have spent a lot of time in law school

Sarge45 · March 5th, 2008, 11:54 PM

What was the deal ? I hear gunfire two doors down from my place at times. The old man (neighbor) down the road hates squirrels, stray cats / dogs. He lights them up on occassion. Seems I'll never get used to it as he fires up about once a month and I'm ducking and reaching for the hip. He would bust a gut if he could see my reaction.

I'm sure I get even though when I take the Mossberg 590 out back.

MR D · March 6th, 2008, 01:57 AM

in town - against ordinances (at least two - and one of the guys was convicted of burglary a while back) (IIRC makes this possession under disability)

no safe place to shoot here in town

SIXTO · March 6th, 2008, 08:38 AM

A few things are interesting here... First, were they shooting to be shooting, or were they up to some dasterdly deed?

If Deputies responded, good chance you live in one of the townships... generally its not illegal to shoot in a township unless you are doing so unsafely.

Let this be a lesson, if you want fast police response, dont live in an area patroled by the S.O. I'm not picking on them, they are great cops in this area... its just that they often have 30-40 sq. miles to work and there is only two of them. Often times the townships are highly populated with undesirables that keep them busy.

HotGuns · March 6th, 2008, 12:03 PM

30-40 square miles? I wish. More often than not where I live we have 2 Deputys for 831 square miles.

A shots fired call wont even get a response unless it's aimed at someone.

kentuckycarry · March 6th, 2008, 12:38 PM

Move to Ky, we got Tn beat on ccw hands down....

MR D · March 6th, 2008, 02:11 PM

actually in town pop around 350

we have a part time officer - whenever the mayor wants a speed trap

this was actually much improved time over previous response about 5-6 years ago (45 minutes then...)

basically - last time we had gunfire in the village a neighbor two houses down (across street from this activity) mistakenly shot his wife

we have an ordinance against discharging in the village, a noise ordinance and the one guy shooting would be a convicted felon (under disability)

All quiet last night...

March 5th, 2008, 07:35 PM	#1
MR D Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 733	Only 17 minute response! Active shooter near my house! this afternoon was awakened from my catatonic stupor in front of the computer by the sounds of gunfire... heard first one - went to make sure wife was okay... then second and third went out side to see if in town or out... boom boom two houses down on other side of street! came in house told wife top call 911 went to safe got out AR and 2 mags and Sig and two mags... leave those in the house with wife (I carry .357 24/7 where legal) all in all between twenty and twenty five rounds fired dispatch wanted to know who was shooting and address... I got on cell and went out got description of two (of three) guy shooting long gun in backyard - dispatch hears several shots... one guy hands other the gun and he sees me standing partially exposed by corner of my house and sweeps me with the muzzle... I drop cell as I am stepping out of view, inform dispatch that I was just swept and that if they shoot at me I will return fire - he says - "now don't do that - it will only make things worse for you" deputies arrive in record time (just about 17 minutes) (last time took 40) deputy pulls in my drive (I inform him that I am licensed and armed - he doesn't seem to care) gets descriptions and waits for back-up they went over and checked out where the shooting was going on and then drove off after five minutes or so... of course the shooters have seen me and have left in a hurry spoke to neighbors, they are aware and know to call if they hear anything unusual coming from my house for the next few days... anyone hiring? I need a new job so I can move - KY TN might work - (I would prefer TX) Last edited by MR D; March 5th, 2008 at 07:35 PM. Reason: more info

March 6th, 2008, 08:38 AM	#7
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Here and There Posts: 9,983	A few things are interesting here... First, were they shooting to be shooting, or were they up to some dasterdly deed? If Deputies responded, good chance you live in one of the townships... generally its not illegal to shoot in a township unless you are doing so unsafely. Let this be a lesson, if you want fast police response, dont live in an area patroled by the S.O. I'm not picking on them, they are great cops in this area... its just that they often have 30-40 sq. miles to work and there is only two of them. Often times the townships are highly populated with undesirables that keep them busy. __________________ In a land of sheep, even a toothless wolf is king. Wake Up! The zombie invasion has begun years ago.

March 6th, 2008, 12:03 PM	#8
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,936	30-40 square miles? I wish. More often than not where I live we have 2 Deputys for 831 square miles. A shots fired call wont even get a response unless it's aimed at someone. __________________ AR. CHL Instr. To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.' Dr. G. Brock Chisolm

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March 5th, 2008, 08:17 PM	#3
Kaymen Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 28	As a 911 dispatcher, I have heard several people say that if you can't do anything about it I will. Now I am a firm believer in self defense but I don't want to hear someone say this, mainly because everything you say is recorded and it can be used against you in a court of law. Why hand the prosecutor more ammo to use against you. Just call report the facts, make sure you and your family is secure, and wait for law enforcement.

March 5th, 2008, 08:26 PM	#4
MR D Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 733	the reason I told him I would return fire was because I had just told him the gun was now in my direction and I was retreating (sorry I wasn't totally clear) I wanted it on the record btw IANAL but I have spent a lot of time in law school

March 5th, 2008, 11:54 PM	#5
Sarge45 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 356	What was the deal ? I hear gunfire two doors down from my place at times. The old man (neighbor) down the road hates squirrels, stray cats / dogs. He lights them up on occassion. Seems I'll never get used to it as he fires up about once a month and I'm ducking and reaching for the hip. He would bust a gut if he could see my reaction. I'm sure I get even though when I take the Mossberg 590 out back.

March 6th, 2008, 01:57 AM	#6
MR D Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 733	in town - against ordinances (at least two - and one of the guys was convicted of burglary a while back) (IIRC makes this possession under disability) no safe place to shoot here in town

March 6th, 2008, 12:38 PM	#9
kentuckycarry Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 1,861	Move to Ky, we got Tn beat on ccw hands down....

March 6th, 2008, 02:11 PM	#10
MR D Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 733	actually in town pop around 350 we have a part time officer - whenever the mayor wants a speed trap this was actually much improved time over previous response about 5-6 years ago (45 minutes then...) basically - last time we had gunfire in the village a neighbor two houses down (across street from this activity) mistakenly shot his wife we have an ordinance against discharging in the village, a noise ordinance and the one guy shooting would be a convicted felon (under disability) All quiet last night...