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Old October 4th, 2005, 11:16 PM   #11
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I'd put the BHP and AK above the 1911 and AR respectively... very USA-centric list.

I'd also include the Makerov and Torkerov pistols, Ruger Six-series (remove GP-100, it's just a refinement) replace Mossberg 500 with M97 Trench Gun (500 is refinement of the concept), add 1903 Springfield, various Lee-Enfield and Enfield variations... move the Thompson up the list, add the Browning automatic rifle, M2 machinegun and M79 grenade launcer... remove a whole lotta crap I've never heard of.
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Old October 5th, 2005, 01:25 AM   #12
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Well, for my 2 cents worth, I'd put the Colt Single Action Army on the list (yes, it's a 19th century design, but so is the Luger).

Then I'd throw out the Remington XP-100, which wasn't particularly remarkable or revolutionary and replace it with the .44 Auto-Mag pistol, which was revolutionary and ahead of its time.
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You're so right.

Where's the P3-AT?
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Old October 5th, 2005, 02:24 AM   #15
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Hmmm... funny thing is I almost didn't. I'm curious to know why you thought I would.

Oh, forgot to add the German MG42 and MP44. MG42 basic design still in use today in the M60, M240, MG3 and several other medium/ GP machineguns.

MP44 was the first assault rifle.


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Old October 5th, 2005, 02:36 AM   #16
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I'd add the Springfield 03, the Colt Python, Winchester 94, move the BHP up several notches, add the AK47. That's all I can think of now. I don't think a few entries are worthy.
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MP5 should be removed and replaced with the G3, which is the big boy of the whole line in the roller-locked guns.

The L1A1/FAL is a glaring omission, as is the Russian SVT-38/40 and the Browning M2 .50. There's an awful lot of sporting shotguns and other basic toys on the list - while I have no problem with them, they're not significant in many cases in the design department.

There are also too many clones and duplicates - list the first modern S&W firearm, then maybe the lightweights seperately. Ditto on some of the other choices.
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Hey, I already agree with you that I would disagree with you.
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Old October 5th, 2005, 10:22 AM   #19
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The problem with this list is it looks like I made it. For example if I made the list, the top 5 would be something like:

1. Marlin Model 60
2. Mossberg 500
3. Smith and Wesson 686
4. Marlin 1894
5. SKS

The point is, that's what I have and what I like. It seems to me this guy just has a pretty good gun collection and picked his personal top 50 firearms out of it. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

The other posters are much closer to right in that no one will get it perfect but these guys picks are way better. We need someone who's an expert on military weapons of the 20th century to really make this determination.
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I don't know how the Smith Model 27 made #4
I can understand this one, he should have used the original name though. The S&W Registered Magnum was the first .357 Magnum in 1935.

As gregarat said, I don't understand him not including the Winchester Model 1894, a gun that has sold nearly 8 million copies after the turn of the century.
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