Do U Agree W/ Dick Metcalf Firearms TOP 50

QKShooter · October 4th, 2005, 03:43 PM

Dick Metcalf
Metcalf’s Top 50 Firearms
Of The 20th Century

"I’m fairly confident about my top five:
The M1 Garand won World War II,
saved the world from tyranny and
oppression, established the semiauto
rifle as the standard soldier’s firearm,
and finally popularized the .30-06 on a
wide scale. The Model 1911 is simply
the most worldwide influential and
popular handgun design ever invented.
The M16/AR15 changed the face of
military/sporting rifle design as well
as the concept of caliber effectiveness
and tactics of fire. The S&W Model 27
revolver was the progenitor of all
magnums. The Browning Auto-5 made
semiauto shotgunning a world sport.
Beyond those five, my rankings are
wide open to argument, and I’d be hard
put to deny anybody wanting,
for example, to switch the order of the
guns I have numbered 26 and 27 or 41
and 42. Anyone curious about why some
are on my list and not others, or the
reason for the order, feel free to ask."

Dicks Picks Just For Kicks
1. M1 Garand
2. Government Model 1911A1
3. M16/AR15
4. S&W Model 27
5. Browning Auto-5
6. Glock pistols
7. Remington Model 700 series
8. S&W Model 19 Combat Masterpiece
9. Ruger .22 auto pistol
10. Remington Model 870
11. AK47
12. S&W Model 60 Chiefs Special
13. Beretta Model 92FS
14. Browning Superposed
15. Walther PP pistol series
16. S&W Model 29/629
17. Ruger Model 10/22
18. Browning Hi-Power
19. Winchester Model 70
20. S&W K-22 Masterpiece
21. Remington Model 1100/11-87
22. Luger pistols (Model 1900-Model 1923)
23. Savage Model 110 series
24. Walther P38
25. Thompson/Center Contender
26. S&W Model 39/59
27. Thompson submachinegun
28. Anschutz Model 54
29. Ruger Blackhawk/Super Blackhawk
30. Mossberg Model 500
31. Ruger P-Series pistols
32. Winchester Model 61/62
33. CZ75
34. Ruger No. 1
35. Remington Nylon 66
36. S&W Model 34/63 Kit Gun
37. Remington Model 740/742
38. Ruger GP100
39. Benelli Black Eagle
40. Remington XP-100
41. H&K MP5
42. Browning A-Bolt
43. Dan Wesson revolver series
44. H&R Topper
45. Taurus Total Titanium revolver series
46. S&W AirLite Ti revolver series
47. Straight-line muzzleloaders (all)
48. Taurus Raging Bull .454
49. Kimber Model 1911 series
50. Charter Arms .44 Bulldog

gregarat · October 4th, 2005, 04:12 PM

I would swap some with the 94 Winchester (It may have been designed in 1894, but it made its influence during this century), 1903 Springfield.

For the Mod 70 Winchester, I would specifically say pre-1964. He also has the 1911 twice.

Bud White · October 4th, 2005, 05:37 PM

i agree with some but not the order and other could just be left out

rocky · October 4th, 2005, 06:17 PM

don't see how the Ruger p series had much influence. Or the chartewr arms bulldog. Also don't see how the Raging bull is all that great, Freedom arms made the big bores first.

Euclidean · October 4th, 2005, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky

don't see how the Ruger p series had much influence. Or the chartewr arms bulldog. Also don't see how the Raging bull is all that great, Freedom arms made the big bores first.

RE: The P Series: rocky there's oodles of these things out there. I'd bet you $1 there's more Rugers floating around out there than Glocks. I agree it's not necessarily something particularly innovative but it is common. I'm shocked the Mini 14 isn't on the list either.

See what's the criteria for this list?

Historical importance?

Technological innovation?

Popularity?

General importance?

Too subjective.

Tangle · October 4th, 2005, 06:33 PM

My top 50 are, and not in any order:

Sig
H&K
Beretta
XD
1911s
S&W revolvers, and some other one???? oh yeah,
Glock

The 50 is rounded out by multiples of the above.

QKShooter · October 4th, 2005, 07:35 PM

I guess "overall" importance to the world of firearms.

I would absolutely move the AK47 further up the ladder.
I don't know how the Smith Model 27 made #4
The S&W Light~Weight Air Crew .38 should be on there.
The diminutive Freedom Arm Stainless Mini should be on there somewhere.
& maybe the Walther TPH
And now...The S&W 500 needs to go onto the list I guess.
For Buds sake anyway!

The DETONICS as the first factory chopped .45...maybe (OK maybe not?)

Oh...cripes I could make lots of changes to that list.
But, then everybody would disagree with me instead of Dick Medcalf.

500Mag · October 4th, 2005, 07:38 PM

Not so sure on the criteria, but I think the AK needs to be a little higher based on its wide use and affordability. Top five seem pretty legit though.

Call me bias but the only notable omission is the X-frame. Maybe it's a little too new for the list, but when you're the biggest, baddest mother on the block you get on whatever list you want.

Team American · October 4th, 2005, 09:01 PM

Gotta save more money...
gotta save more money...

I only own 6 out of the 50...

gotta save more money....

P95Carry · October 4th, 2005, 09:04 PM

Hmmm - I guess not too far off but the order would not be mine - for instance #18 for BHP? - I'd place that a tad higher.

It's the sorta thing folks could discuss ad infinitum and never agree on

October 4th, 2005, 04:12 PM	#2
gregarat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central NYS Posts: 856	I would swap some with the 94 Winchester (It may have been designed in 1894, but it made its influence during this century), 1903 Springfield. For the Mod 70 Winchester, I would specifically say pre-1964. He also has the 1911 twice. Last edited by gregarat; October 4th, 2005 at 04:23 PM.

October 4th, 2005, 07:35 PM	#7
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,797	I sure would change the order a bit. I guess "overall" importance to the world of firearms. I would absolutely move the AK47 further up the ladder. I don't know how the Smith Model 27 made #4 The S&W Light~Weight Air Crew .38 should be on there. The diminutive Freedom Arm Stainless Mini should be on there somewhere. & maybe the Walther TPH And now...The S&W 500 needs to go onto the list I guess. For Buds sake anyway! The DETONICS as the first factory chopped .45...maybe (OK maybe not?) Oh...cripes I could make lots of changes to that list. But, then everybody would disagree with me instead of Dick Medcalf.

October 4th, 2005, 07:38 PM	#8
500Mag Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 384	Not so sure on the criteria, but I think the AK needs to be a little higher based on its wide use and affordability. Top five seem pretty legit though. Call me bias but the only notable omission is the X-frame. Maybe it's a little too new for the list, but when you're the biggest, baddest mother on the block you get on whatever list you want. __________________ "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

October 4th, 2005, 09:01 PM	#9
Team American VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,797	Gotta save more money... gotta save more money... I only own 6 out of the 50... gotta save more money.... __________________ "I surrounded 'em"- Alvin York "They're ain't many troubles that a man can't fix with seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six"- Jeff Cooper

October 4th, 2005, 09:04 PM	#10
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Hmmm - I guess not too far off but the order would not be mine - for instance #18 for BHP? - I'd place that a tad higher. It's the sorta thing folks could discuss ad infinitum and never agree on __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

October 4th, 2005, 03:43 PM	#1
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,797	Do U Agree W/ Dick Metcalf Firearms TOP 50 Dick Metcalf Metcalf’s Top 50 Firearms Of The 20th Century "I’m fairly confident about my top five: The M1 Garand won World War II, saved the world from tyranny and oppression, established the semiauto rifle as the standard soldier’s firearm, and finally popularized the .30-06 on a wide scale. The Model 1911 is simply the most worldwide influential and popular handgun design ever invented. The M16/AR15 changed the face of military/sporting rifle design as well as the concept of caliber effectiveness and tactics of fire. The S&W Model 27 revolver was the progenitor of all magnums. The Browning Auto-5 made semiauto shotgunning a world sport. Beyond those five, my rankings are wide open to argument, and I’d be hard put to deny anybody wanting, for example, to switch the order of the guns I have numbered 26 and 27 or 41 and 42. Anyone curious about why some are on my list and not others, or the reason for the order, feel free to ask." Dicks Picks Just For Kicks 1. M1 Garand 2. Government Model 1911A1 3. M16/AR15 4. S&W Model 27 5. Browning Auto-5 6. Glock pistols 7. Remington Model 700 series 8. S&W Model 19 Combat Masterpiece 9. Ruger .22 auto pistol 10. Remington Model 870 11. AK47 12. S&W Model 60 Chiefs Special 13. Beretta Model 92FS 14. Browning Superposed 15. Walther PP pistol series 16. S&W Model 29/629 17. Ruger Model 10/22 18. Browning Hi-Power 19. Winchester Model 70 20. S&W K-22 Masterpiece 21. Remington Model 1100/11-87 22. Luger pistols (Model 1900-Model 1923) 23. Savage Model 110 series 24. Walther P38 25. Thompson/Center Contender 26. S&W Model 39/59 27. Thompson submachinegun 28. Anschutz Model 54 29. Ruger Blackhawk/Super Blackhawk 30. Mossberg Model 500 31. Ruger P-Series pistols 32. Winchester Model 61/62 33. CZ75 34. Ruger No. 1 35. Remington Nylon 66 36. S&W Model 34/63 Kit Gun 37. Remington Model 740/742 38. Ruger GP100 39. Benelli Black Eagle 40. Remington XP-100 41. H&K MP5 42. Browning A-Bolt 43. Dan Wesson revolver series 44. H&R Topper 45. Taurus Total Titanium revolver series 46. S&W AirLite Ti revolver series 47. Straight-line muzzleloaders (all) 48. Taurus Raging Bull .454 49. Kimber Model 1911 series 50. Charter Arms .44 Bulldog

October 4th, 2005, 05:37 PM	#3
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	i agree with some but not the order and other could just be left out

October 4th, 2005, 06:17 PM	#4
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,624	don't see how the Ruger p series had much influence. Or the chartewr arms bulldog. Also don't see how the Raging bull is all that great, Freedom arms made the big bores first.

October 4th, 2005, 06:33 PM	#6
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 5,688	My top 50 are, and not in any order: Sig H&K Beretta XD 1911s S&W revolvers, and some other one???? oh yeah, Glock The 50 is rounded out by multiples of the above.

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