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Old April 26th, 2008, 10:18 AM   #11
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Just to add a note to your note about the previous note (), I'm fairly certain that any 'reliability enhancements' made by a master gunsmith like Bruce Gray would probably pass even the most scrutinous jury.

I guess the real point is that a P220 comes ready rock right out of the box. In light of my recent purchase(s), I'm probably not best to make this point, but if cash is an issue and reliability is your biggest concern, lay your money on a 'run of the mill' Sig and rest easy knowing you've got a gun you can count on. Tricking out and improving ANY gun is always possible, but as far as perfection from the factory, I don't think anyone will argue that Sig comes close.

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Old April 26th, 2008, 10:44 AM   #12
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I'm fairly certain that any 'reliability enhancements' made by a master gunsmith like Bruce Gray would probably pass even the most scrutinous jury.

I would think so, his reputation with sigs preceded him.

I guess the real point is that a P220 comes ready rock right out of the box.

They used to, but since the Kimber exec was hired on to run Sig, some of the newer designed 220's have had small issues crop up which were never seen in their original configuration. Their new 8 round mag for the 220 has a propensity to not feed the last round in some guns. It's been determined by others that a small section of the slide on some got out of the factory without being radiused properly.

I'm down here in Fla until tonight, having trained a police dept down here on Thursday and taking a few days to wind down in sunny Fla.

The officers carry sigs and the sig rep was there for the morning. She wouldn't admit to issues with the new 220's mags or what may be causing it [ not surprising at all ], so I showed her the radiused area of the slide that isn't always radiused [ those appear to be the guns having issues with the new mags for some reason ].

She was interested, to say the least. She gave me two sig 220 seven round mags gratis, which I appreicated

On another note, I happened to call sig customer service last Monday as my thin grips for the 220 don't come close to fitting properly. The person stated send the gun in, they'd fit up a pair for me. I told him no thanks, I didn't buy a sig to have to send it back, that their grips should fit to begin with. He wouldn't comp me a pair so that really set me off.

I informed the boss at the gunshop I wasn't selling or recommending sigs anymore, their customer service attitude was bad, and thats knowing I worked and sold sigs at a shop a few days a week when I'm around.

He gave me the reps name who services us as a master dealer. I called our rep who was not happy about the customer services response and my grips are waiting for me when I return to the shop tomorrow.

I'll continue to sell sigs, but if a customer has a problem with one of their products, I'm calling our rep, not customer service.

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Old July 8th, 2008, 05:33 PM   #13
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I am curious about having the accessory pieces (trigger, screws, slide catch, decocker, etc) nickel plated.

I know that sig custom shop offers it, but is is $200. I'm sure that I can get them nickel plated somewhere locally, but will they still work?

I am going for the "equinox" look. I have a gunsmith who offered to do the brushed slide look for $60, and he will install the nickel plated pieces if I get them, but I am wondering if I can get this done locally.


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Todd.
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If the gun was never modified then the whole line of questioning will never come up..
Its all a game for the lawyers.. "He modified the weapon so it realiably would kill everytime, ladies and gentleman"
I see no reason to give the other guy anything that can be worked to your disadvantage.
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I am curious about having the accessory pieces (trigger, screws, slide catch, decocker, etc) nickel plated.

I know that sig custom shop offers it, but is is $200. I'm sure that I can get them nickel plated somewhere locally, but will they still work?

I am going for the "equinox" look. I have a gunsmith who offered to do the brushed slide look for $60, and he will install the nickel plated pieces if I get them, but I am wondering if I can get this done locally.


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Todd.
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since I worked on the assembly line at Sig (made the guns from raw material)
I would suggest that if you want the Equinox look, have a good machinst take the slide off, and place it on a surface grinder (like they do at Sig) and take .0005-.0015 off the slide on either side. This will make the gun look like the equinox. Tru-Glo TFO sights, and the wood grips will do the trick as well. As for the top of the slide, it's placed on either a miling machine or a grinder (as previously stated) and ground down. NOTE: the slide has been heat reated after the grinding was done, so your current slide may not fair so well after the process you may do. Just a bit of good info for you. And yes, you can add the shiny new bells and whistles (screws and things) to it to make it look like the Equinox
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