Chum

Has anyone here had any work done on their Sig from the Sig Sauer Custom Shop? I have a P220 and I'd like to know what, if any, of the customizations are worth the money. It seems a bit spendy to me but I could see some of it being worthwhile if they do a good job, which I imagine they do.

The Action Enhancement Package and "SRT" Short Reset Trigger look especially promising. Here's the link...

http://www.sigsauer.com/CustomerServ...Price-List.pdf

mcp1810

I have not personally, but some of the folks on the Sig forum speak very highly of their work. Grayguns also gets rave reviews. In fact some people like Bruce's work better than the factory jobs.

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wilson1

i heard it was kind of a ripoff.

Chum

Yeah, replies! And not all postitive. Wilson1 could you be more specific if possible?

I'm thinking of either plopping down some money to slick up my P220 or buying a new gun altogether. I can't do both.

Pizza Bob

Chum:

I won't make a statement either way as to the quality of one shop's work over another. But I'll leave you with this thought - If this is your carry gun, a gun modified by the factory is more defensible in court than one modified by an outside source. Just food for thought.

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Pizza Bob

Chum

Good point Pizza Bob! I hadn't thought of that at all.

EAJ

I had my SIG P239 SAS DAK converted to DA/SA by their custom shop along with the ACP package. I was pleased with their work. As a result the pistol is more enjoyable (and accurate) to shoot. Normally, unless it’s a warranty issue shipping would apply (about $70 round trip) , however I received free shipping and they replaced the rear contrast sight with a night sight at no additional cost.

Grayguns has an excellent reputation on the SIG forum and some owners prefer their work over SIG’s custom shop, however it is a little pricier and his services are in demand therefore you may have to take a number. :)

AzQkr

Pizza Bob,

Can you describe under what circumstances anyone would be able to determine the gun had been worked on by anyone?

Who [ involved in an after action shooting officially ] would have enough knowledge of any particular firearms mechanics to find it had been worked on?

If this is your carry gun, a gun modified by the factory is more defensible in court than one modified by an outside source.

Perhaps, but there are plenty of gunsmiths out there who specialize in one or two makers firearms and have a reputation for the best work on those models. None of which would even be a factor in most shootings unless the gun failed and fired unintentionally.

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Pizza Bob

In a shooting just about anything can come to light. In this instance it would be more likely to happen in a civil rather than criminal trial. Read any of Ayoob's court horror stories. Whether a gun has been modified or not is something that would be asked during discovery by the plaintiff. Once it's found that it was, whether it's a factor in the shooting or not, a good attorney can really make something of nothing. Firearms manufacturers have to govern just about everything they do from a liability standpoint. If the manufcturer of your gun is the same entity that modified it, the fact that it IS modified is more defensible.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

AzQkr

Whether a gun has been modified or not is something that would be asked during discovery by the plaintiff

Modified?, I prefer the words "enhanced for reliability" myself. If the guns safeties weren't disabled, the gun wasnt made unsafe through the enhanced work, the shoot was good, etc, I don't see the concern or worry in having the gun worked on.

The civil trial might bring forth the question of whether it was "altered" in some way after it left the factory and for what reason. It's quite defensible that any work I'd have performed on my weapon was also offered by the factory.

That the enhancement wasn't "factory" but some outside vendors work might be a contention, but then any vendor I'm going to use would be well established as a known expert in that firearm operation.

I mention the above because quite often people will change out an extractor to say a Wilson bullet proof on a 1911, or change the same part on a sig 220.

I don't like the word modified, I think that suggests more than needs to be spoken at any time. I might tweek my extractor on my 1911 myself, that technically is a modification. Will that be a contention down the road? Only if you make statements which bring that action to the fore.

If one is going to worry about enhancing their firearms performance and any after action contentions by some aggressive defense atty in doing so, carry it stock as you get it from the factory. On the other hand, if some enhancement made the gun more reliable than it came from the factory, one could demonstrate/document that very well for an uneducated jury. To me, thats what you are attempting at trial, to educate the jurors who probably won't understand either sides contention.

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