Guns and the Presidential Election: MERGED - Page 5

AZ Husker · January 27th, 2008, 03:06 AM

I'm well supplied with weapons. Now I'm working on case lots of ammo. Actually, I've paid close attention to the gun-owning Sheep and just may have to commandeer their stashes...
Food & water I have plenty. I'm having trouble rotating stock the way it is. Why did I buy so much tuna when it was on sale. Used to love it...

BAC · January 27th, 2008, 03:30 AM

bobcatp, I'd be interested in knowing that, too. While I love my Mauser, 8mm surplus has all but dried up and I have to hit the reloading bench if I want any more at a decent price. Smoke Wagon still has some of the rimmed ammo at a good price (Bulgarian surplus), but I'm not sure as to quality. So far our Mosins have eaten everything we've given them, and the shooters of our family aren't the greatest riflemen and don't have the chronographs to know any more than the stuff shoots when we want it to. And emits fireballs. (If you've never shot a Mosin Nagant at night, I highly recommend the experience.)

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Originally Posted by AZ Husker

Why did I buy so much tuna when it was on sale. Used to love it...

I, for one, happen to love my MRE's and Mountain House, and don't see replenishing them as "stocking up" any more than a normal grocery trip.

Doc Holliday · January 27th, 2008, 03:39 AM

I worry about the govt. seizing some of or even all of our toys.

What are we going to do when that day comes?

While I do own one of the so called evil rifles, I also just got an M1 Garand. I am at least hoping that will be viewed as a 64 year old war relic that poses no threat to tyranny.

SIXTO · January 27th, 2008, 03:41 AM

I really dont worry about that much Doc... after all, who is going to come get them? I think they will but a squeeze on us by other means, such as forcing ammo supplies dry.

AZ Husker · January 27th, 2008, 03:46 AM

All my weapons except my M4 were bought on private sales...no record.

Nelson Muntz · January 27th, 2008, 08:17 AM

Sixto, I think Doc has the right idea. It's not so much stockpiling as it will be caching that 's important. Who'll come to get them? Remember Katrina. Door to door SWAT assault on law abiding citizens. An Executive Order can wipe out the recent legislation in several states to protect from a gov't grab with one signature.

I'm more interested in how to successfully cache "in plain sight" to avoid the grab. Ground penetrating radar is typically used to find buried caches, so those of us in urban or suburban homes without multiple acres will have less places to effectively hide our supplies of interest. I think the best place to cache your weapons will be in your home where you will be able to access it when need be without being observed. That will require "hiding in plain sight" so that the invading grabbers will not even realize its there.

They will tear up your house if you do not produce "sacrificial" arms, so placing these in typical places they will look - like in a ziplock bag in the toilet tank- will satisfy them that you are stupid and they've taken possession of what they came for. Meanwhile, your stockpile is more cleverly hidden and won't be seized. I have ideas for hiding multiple long guns in plain sight, and huge piles of ammo in plain sight that won't be found. I'd be interested in hearing of other clever plain sight cache ideas, but don't think we should post these on an internet BB that can later be referred to by the gov't. If anyone knows if PM's can not be later recovered, I'd trade ideas that way.

lopadrino79 · January 27th, 2008, 11:27 AM

I am no computer expert but with todays technology, I think that ANYTHING can be recovered or monitored on the net.

armado · January 27th, 2008, 12:22 PM

It seems very probable that a new administration will introduce a new gun ban. It will be up to voices like ours to make them back down. We will win this round, but there will always be other gun bans to fight. I will keep stocking up ammo and guns. You never know what tomorrow may bring.

Pro2A · February 6th, 2008, 09:02 AM

Are you going to stock up and buy semi-auto's this year if god forbid an anti-gunner gets into the whitehouse in November? From what I can tell now the only front runner that has a strong pro-2A stace is Huckabee. The others looks like they will push another AWB. Maybe even a permanent one

Are you concerned? Not concerned? Are you going to buy as many as you can?

tns0038 · February 6th, 2008, 09:16 AM

Possibly a couple extra high capacity clips for the Glock, but other than that. NO

I have no need for an AK or AR15, (sold the AR15 years ago). I have a couple custom bolt action rifles that are tack drivers and enough loading supplies to last me the rest of my life. And I just cannot ever see our Government stopping the sale of 9mm to the general public.

Regardless of who gets in office, that person is only 1/3 of our Government. Sure an anti-gun President and Congress will get another assault weapons band through, but it will take them at least a year to get it implemented.

So anyone wanting to buy one will have plenty of time after the November count.

View Poll Results: What are you buying now just in case?
"Big black scary" guns!	21	21.88%
Large capacity magazines	14	14.58%
Ammo	43	44.79%
Accessories (folding stocks, bayonet lugs, tripods etc...)	0	0%
Handguns	11	11.46%
Other	7	7.29%
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

January 27th, 2008, 03:39 AM	#43
Doc Holliday Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,351	I worry about the govt. seizing some of or even all of our toys. What are we going to do when that day comes? While I do own one of the so called evil rifles, I also just got an M1 Garand. I am at least hoping that will be viewed as a 64 year old war relic that poses no threat to tyranny. __________________ Give Doc the shotgun. They'll be less apt to get nervous if he's on the street howitzer. Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave. I have two guns, one for each of ya.

January 27th, 2008, 03:41 AM	#44
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Here and There Posts: 9,983	I really dont worry about that much Doc... after all, who is going to come get them? I think they will but a squeeze on us by other means, such as forcing ammo supplies dry. __________________ In a land of sheep, even a toothless wolf is king. Wake Up! The zombie invasion has begun years ago.

February 6th, 2008, 09:02 AM	#49
Pro2A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Franklin County Pennsylvania Posts: 939	Will you stock up? Are you going to stock up and buy semi-auto's this year if god forbid an anti-gunner gets into the whitehouse in November? From what I can tell now the only front runner that has a strong pro-2A stace is Huckabee. The others looks like they will push another AWB. Maybe even a permanent one Are you concerned? Not concerned? Are you going to buy as many as you can? __________________ America - The Constitutionalist Free Republic .45 Glock 36, 9mm Taurus PT111 Pro, Kel-Tec P3AT .380, Taurus 85 Revolver .38 Spc., 9mm EAA Witness, Savage .270, Savage .22, Mossburg Maverick 88 12 gauge, New England Pardner 12 gauge, WASR-10 AK-47, Mauser 98K 8mm and a Bushmaster M4A1 .223

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January 27th, 2008, 03:06 AM	#41
AZ Husker VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,720	I'm well supplied with weapons. Now I'm working on case lots of ammo. Actually, I've paid close attention to the gun-owning Sheep and just may have to commandeer their stashes... Food & water I have plenty. I'm having trouble rotating stock the way it is. Why did I buy so much tuna when it was on sale. Used to love it...

January 27th, 2008, 03:46 AM	#45
AZ Husker VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,720	All my weapons except my M4 were bought on private sales...no record.

January 27th, 2008, 08:17 AM	#46
Nelson Muntz Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 35	Sixto, I think Doc has the right idea. It's not so much stockpiling as it will be caching that 's important. Who'll come to get them? Remember Katrina. Door to door SWAT assault on law abiding citizens. An Executive Order can wipe out the recent legislation in several states to protect from a gov't grab with one signature. I'm more interested in how to successfully cache "in plain sight" to avoid the grab. Ground penetrating radar is typically used to find buried caches, so those of us in urban or suburban homes without multiple acres will have less places to effectively hide our supplies of interest. I think the best place to cache your weapons will be in your home where you will be able to access it when need be without being observed. That will require "hiding in plain sight" so that the invading grabbers will not even realize its there. They will tear up your house if you do not produce "sacrificial" arms, so placing these in typical places they will look - like in a ziplock bag in the toilet tank- will satisfy them that you are stupid and they've taken possession of what they came for. Meanwhile, your stockpile is more cleverly hidden and won't be seized. I have ideas for hiding multiple long guns in plain sight, and huge piles of ammo in plain sight that won't be found. I'd be interested in hearing of other clever plain sight cache ideas, but don't think we should post these on an internet BB that can later be referred to by the gov't. If anyone knows if PM's can not be later recovered, I'd trade ideas that way.

January 27th, 2008, 11:27 AM	#47
lopadrino79 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 168	I am no computer expert but with todays technology, I think that ANYTHING can be recovered or monitored on the net.

January 27th, 2008, 12:22 PM	#48
armado Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 76	It seems very probable that a new administration will introduce a new gun ban. It will be up to voices like ours to make them back down. We will win this round, but there will always be other gun bans to fight. I will keep stocking up ammo and guns. You never know what tomorrow may bring.

February 6th, 2008, 09:16 AM	#50
tns0038 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,175	Possibly a couple extra high capacity clips for the Glock, but other than that. NO I have no need for an AK or AR15, (sold the AR15 years ago). I have a couple custom bolt action rifles that are tack drivers and enough loading supplies to last me the rest of my life. And I just cannot ever see our Government stopping the sale of 9mm to the general public. Regardless of who gets in office, that person is only 1/3 of our Government. Sure an anti-gun President and Congress will get another assault weapons band through, but it will take them at least a year to get it implemented. So anyone wanting to buy one will have plenty of time after the November count.