Where are you keeping a gun? - Page 3

snowdoctor · May 9th, 2008, 11:47 AM

it is just common courtesy to tell the LEO, I don't care what state you are in...if you need to reach into the compartment that houses your firearm in your car...let the darn officer KNOW.

TNK · May 9th, 2008, 02:09 PM

I got pulled over right after I recieved my CPL in the mail. It was in a high end suburb north of Detroit.

Showed the officer my license, registration, insurance and CPL when he came to the window. I told him I wasn't in possession of my firearm. He questioned my as to why I was telling him I had a concealed pistol license if I didn't have my pistol? I told him it was what we were taught to do. His response was something along the lines of , "oh, they must be teaching that in the classes now...." And he didn't really agree with the logic of it. I just nodded and said, "Yeah, I can see your point" although I really didn't.

In any case, he wrote me a warning, told me to fix my rear brake light and sent me along my way. In 27 years of driving, I have never recieved less than an equipment violation-my first written warning ever.

I would rather tell the officer up front, than have him go and run my plates and find out after the fact, wether I'm in possesion of a firearm or not. Why? Because I try to put myself in their position, I'd want to know.

havegunjoe · May 9th, 2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TNK

I got pulled over right after I recieved my CPL in the mail. It was in a high end suburb north of Detroit.

Showed the officer my license, registration, insurance and CPL when he came to the window. I told him I wasn't in possession of my firearm. He questioned my as to why I was telling him I had a concealed pistol license if I didn't have my pistol? I told him it was what we were taught to do. His response was something along the lines of , "oh, they must be teaching that in the classes now...." And he didn't really agree with the logic of it. I just nodded and said, "Yeah, I can see your point" although I really didn't.

In any case, he wrote me a warning, told me to fix my rear brake light and sent me along my way. In 27 years of driving, I have never recieved less than an equipment violation-my first written warning ever.

I would rather tell the officer up front, than have him go and run my plates and find out after the fact, wether I'm in possesion of a firearm or not. Why? Because I try to put myself in their position, I'd want to know.

If you were LE why would you want to know someone does not have a gun on them for a routine traffic stop where nothing would indicate danger? It is of no consequence. It has nothing to do with the reason you are being stopped. There is zero potential danger to the officer if you do not have a gun on or about your person. I just don't see the reason why.

Hopyard · May 9th, 2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by havegunjoe

If you were LE why would you want to know someone does not have a gun on them for a routine traffic stop where nothing would indicate danger? It is of no consequence. It has nothing to do with the reason you are being stopped. There is zero potential danger to the officer if you do not have a gun on or about your person. I just don't see the reason why.

The law here is quite clear. You must show the license if you are in possession, otherwise you have no obligation to do so.

When I took my license renewal class a few months back the instructor mentioned that there had been a few bad events at which a license holder was arrested for not showing the license, even though not in possession. The officer involved didn't get it. The arrested individual spent 12 K on lawyers.

The advice from the instructor, which I don't entirely agree with because it is inconsistent with the actual law, was to show the license even if not in possession.

I think there will always be misunderstandings and errors, no matter what course we take. I still think the best course is to stick to the letter of the law; don't show unless actually carrying or in possession.

MaxLoad · May 9th, 2008, 05:24 PM

I've only been in the state less than a year, so I asked local PD as to local SOP. 2 different officers told me basically 'don't ask, don't tell'. Show the officer license, registration, insurance and that's all.

I was a little surprised, so I asked a neighbor who's an officer in a neighboring county. He said the same thing. So, I'm still confused...

I guess, if I ever get pulled over I'll use my best judgement???

SelfDefense · May 9th, 2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by havegunjoe

If you were LE why would you want to know someone does not have a gun on them for a routine traffic stop where nothing would indicate danger? It is of no consequence. It has nothing to do with the reason you are being stopped. There is zero potential danger to the officer if you do not have a gun on or about your person. I just don't see the reason why.

In some jurisdictions the CCW permit is tied to the drivers license. I would rather tell the LEO up front than to have him learn I might be armed and refused to tell him.

retsupt99 · May 9th, 2008, 09:10 PM

I believe in sharing the info out of respect for the officer. Recently I went motorcycle riding with a subdivision neighbor who was a cop...not really a neighbor on my street. Before we left, I told him that I always had my Glock on me when riding. All he said was, "I don't really care, as long as you're legal." Nothing more was ever mentioned about it.

wilson1 · May 9th, 2008, 11:54 PM

i carry where ever i go. and i try not to be stopped.

gg12 · May 10th, 2008, 12:34 AM

Per Ramrod:

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On top of my engine under the hood, behind the microwave, under the broiler plate in the oven, velcroed to the toilet tank lid two of em's buried in the yard but that was two years ago and I forgot, one's inside the non-working stereo speaker in the living room, and a few more are in here somewhere, but I aint seen 'em in quite a while!

Have you checked your freezer?

P7fanatic · May 10th, 2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dukalmighty

I will let an officer know right away i am legally armed and where it is,if you're upfront they are less suspicious than to see a gun you may be reaching for to shoot them,If I was still in LE I woulda done the same thing

Especially since by law in Texas you are required to inform the officer up front that your are carrying, it's probably a good idea.

May 9th, 2008, 11:47 AM	#21
snowdoctor Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 1,188	it is just common courtesy to tell the LEO, I don't care what state you are in...if you need to reach into the compartment that houses your firearm in your car...let the darn officer KNOW. __________________ ----DOC----- --people ask why I carry, and I show them this picture. I think it says it all.-- NRA Certified Instructor--many disciplines

May 9th, 2008, 09:10 PM	#27
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,542	I believe in sharing the info out of respect for the officer. Recently I went motorcycle riding with a subdivision neighbor who was a cop...not really a neighbor on my street. Before we left, I told him that I always had my Glock on me when riding. All he said was, "I don't really care, as long as you're legal." Nothing more was ever mentioned about it. __________________ ‘‘Four out of five politicians surveyed prefered unarmed, ignorant peasants.’’ — Unknown Liberals are as American as 'dog dodo' pie...

May 9th, 2008, 11:54 PM	#28
wilson1 Ex Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: jacksonville, florida Posts: 18	where? i carry where ever i go. and i try not to be stopped.

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May 9th, 2008, 02:09 PM	#22
TNK New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Just west of Detroit Posts: 6	I got pulled over right after I recieved my CPL in the mail. It was in a high end suburb north of Detroit. Showed the officer my license, registration, insurance and CPL when he came to the window. I told him I wasn't in possession of my firearm. He questioned my as to why I was telling him I had a concealed pistol license if I didn't have my pistol? I told him it was what we were taught to do. His response was something along the lines of , "oh, they must be teaching that in the classes now...." And he didn't really agree with the logic of it. I just nodded and said, "Yeah, I can see your point" although I really didn't. In any case, he wrote me a warning, told me to fix my rear brake light and sent me along my way. In 27 years of driving, I have never recieved less than an equipment violation-my first written warning ever. I would rather tell the officer up front, than have him go and run my plates and find out after the fact, wether I'm in possesion of a firearm or not. Why? Because I try to put myself in their position, I'd want to know.

May 9th, 2008, 05:24 PM	#25
MaxLoad Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 157	I've only been in the state less than a year, so I asked local PD as to local SOP. 2 different officers told me basically 'don't ask, don't tell'. Show the officer license, registration, insurance and that's all. I was a little surprised, so I asked a neighbor who's an officer in a neighboring county. He said the same thing. So, I'm still confused... I guess, if I ever get pulled over I'll use my best judgement???