Redxd

Man this was some crap you were put through. I hope you burn him on this!

cagueits

Little story. "Speed", get caught, take the ticket and pay it because its "easier" than fighting it. Now get ready for probably a drivers licence suspended for 30days, suspended license reinstallment fees, increased premiums in car insurance and answer yes on boxes that say "has your driver's license ever been suspended?" (usually found on jobs you would really like to have and may not get because you chose to take the easy route).

Different story. Speed, get caught, take the ticket and fight it with an attorney. Posibly get reduction of offense, no insurance premiums hikes, no suspended licence (hence no extra fees to reinstall), no boxes to check, better chances at a job you might really want in the future, etc. Is it worth maybe $500-2000+ to fight it? Just to prevent the insurance hike alone I say it would be beneficial to fight it.

Like originially stated, talk to an attorney. Also, if you were pulled over on US 49 south of Paragould, your case may be viewed at the Green County District Court. Call the Clerk and inquire about your case's status.

Heres a link to related laws. Read up 27-51-201, 27-50-302, 27-50-602 and 27-50-603.

By the way, Metro 40 brings up good points, especilly the one that just because you can file a complaint with an agency, that agency will take action on it just because you filed it. Unless there are other related complaints or a mayor crime commited, don't expect much attention. Still, if you arent exagerating the facts, it is usually better to file a complaint just in case, you never know how things may turn up in the future.

Also, you should have been issued a citation like the one below:

Arkansas Citations

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Duisburg

Well what would you think happen if I just got another license in the state I now live in??? Why would they suspend it in the first place?

Oh and those citations, I never saw any of them! The only things that I saw are what I have a copy of now...

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cagueits

I venture to say that at least you would be guilty of a misdemeanor, but I think it would probably be more of a felony depending on what state you live. In either case, don't do it. Its either a guaranteed fine or/and jail time.

As far as the citations, that is the document the officer should have given you to sign right when you asked to see the radar, etc. You should've signed the citation, as it wasn't an admission of guilt, and you could have fighted it from a distance. The LEO should have (not required by law as far as I know) at least advised you one time of your duty to aknowledge the citation and that you were required to promisse to take care of it unless you wanted to be taken under custody before a magistrate right there and then.

Right now, if you can't afford an attorney, you really need to call the court house and ask the clerk to find you in the system and tell you what charges are pending against you. I'm not sure if you understand what a magistrate is and if you were before one. You really need to sit down and think of what documents you signed while under custody and let an attorney know - since your chances to go back and fight it are low I would imagine. Also look into traffic schools as an alternative to the fine. Usually if you do the traffic school the citation won't reach your insurance, so its better that nothing if you are found guilty.

TravisABQ

Did some of you guys not even read the OP?

Duisberg was "cuffed and stuffed" pretty much from the start.
Officer "Smith" didn't give a citation to sign, much less that he "refused" to sign as some of you accuse.... and apparently didn't even give him the particular documents which Arkansas gives a traffic violator.

The piece of paper looks about as "official" as something I might have a friend cobble up with a shoestring printshop operation, never having seen the official documents.

I actually wonder if this whole violation is even ON RECORD with that county court.


--Travis--

Metro 40

Did YOU read it? Here's a quote:

Now this just didn't make sense because I was going, at the most, 60 MPH because I watched my speedometer so as to conserve gas at 10 miles per gallon on a 1700 mile move across the country. I told him that there was no way, that I did not believe him and that I wanted to see the radar gun with my speed on it. He insisted that I sign the ticket and then I asked to see his badge and to get his badge number. He told me to get out, so thinking that he was going to let me see the radar I got out and that was were he then told me to turn around and place my hands behind my back.

1. Arguing with the trooper at the side of the road.
2. Demanding to see the radar gun.
3. Trooper insisted that the violator sign the ticket. Obviously the violator didn't sign it, as his next action is to demand a badge number.

Seems like something much less than a kidnapping conspiracy to me.

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Duisburg

There wasn't an arguement, I flat told him (calmly) that there was no way since I was trying to conserve gas going across the country and to see his radar. He did have his speeding ticket booklet but nothing was filled out on the top sheet. What next, me signing blank checks?

I asked to see his badge and then after he refused I asked for his badge number and he again refused.

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INTJ

I've driven thru Arkansas some. Seems like I've seen "no tolerance" signs occasionally posted concerning speed limits. Don't take this as a harsh comment, ya might wanna chalk this one up as a learning experience, sounds like you had a choice; sign or pay.

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Duisburg

I just want to say "THANKS!" to everyone who has commented so far, for all the help, advice, support and the honest truths!

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SmokeEater2

Wow! Definitely a bad LEO experience. I live in Mountain Home,AR and after I read this I called a CCW instructor (and retired LEO) and he said that under Arkansas law a speeding ticket does not impact your CCW at all.
Good luck with this and keep us posted.