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Old May 29th, 2008, 04:48 PM   #81
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You have basically two alternatives. Either "get over it" and get on with your life. You are young and have lots of it ahead of you. If you can't get over it because it eats at you then get a lawyer for some professional advice.

I used to have the second attitude. But my little brother (now deceased) used to remind me that there were two important rules in life.
Rule 1: Don't sweat the small stuff.
Rule 2: Everything is small stuff.

When I began to carry, I began to internalize his rules. He would have been upset about my carrying, but I wish he was still around to see my adoption of his rule set.

Whatever you decide to do, live long and prosper.

Hehe, I'll bet it wouldn't be "small stuff" if your right to carry was taken away for something you felt was completely unfair and unethical. ;-)

Not the case here, but if that did happen. It would eat at me because it isn't right, and he'll do it to someone else...plus, our fight to keep guns legal isn't small stuff! Our right to carry as a whole isn't small stuff! Rise up! Fight for your RIGHTS! Ok, I'll calm down.


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If what Duisburg says is true, I wonder how many of us would just forget about it after going through that experience. I could advise him to forget it and move on but that is a pretty bad scenario.
In fact, that is one of the worst scenarios I have ever heard of.
I have some very specific ideas re courses of action if Duisburg wants to PM me.

Agreed...provided it's an accurate account. Not saying it's untrue; you just never know.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 05:23 PM   #82
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I'm thinking it's easy to second guess your actions in this case from my armchair, harder when you're the guy in the back seat. I THINK I would likely have not paid them anything, and gotten legal counsel. My new life would have to wait, and I strongly suspect that when Barney Fife figured out you'd called his bluff, things would have changed drastically.

Now that it's done, you can still go back and pursue it, but it'll take either a lot of pocket cash or a dedicated lawyer to get things done. There are several groups that give free or steeply discounted prices to victims of 2nd amendment violations. You could likely call them and get free advice on whether it'd be worth pursuing....

I really hate it for you that this happened, tied my stomach in knots to read it, much less live through it. Best luck!
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Old May 31st, 2008, 05:14 PM   #83
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Angry U-Hauls and cops...

Twice in my life I've been forced into making long-distance moves via rented U-Haul trucks. On BOTH occasions, I was stopped for "traffic violations" while driving the speed limit on open highways with practically no other vehicles in sight. Keep in mind that I have a total of five traffic tickets in 40 years of driving.

The first time was at night in Iowa. The cop accused me of speeding. I wasn't and I knew it, but I just shut up and let him go through with his radio calls, etc. Amazingly, he didn't write me a ticket. I had a fresh "high and tight" haircut, on my way to Camp Lejeune and it turned out the guy was a former Marine. He handed me a warning and said "semper fi" and let me go.

The second time I was going south on I-25 in New Mexico in broad daylight in light traffic through the middle of the desert south of Albuquerque. I was being passed by almost everything on the road. A NMHP pulled me over, saying he'd clocked me at 15 mph over the speed limit and that I'd made an illegal lane change. I hadn't been out of the right hand lane in miles and miles. Again, there's no doubt the cop was lying on both counts. But I just handed over my license and rental agreement and was totally cooperative. I didn't even question the charges he was levelling at me. He went back to his cruiser and did the usual radio calls, etc. As he came back, I was expecting a ticket, but instead he let me off with a verbal warning

I can't explain it. In both cases I was sure it was going to cost me lots more than I could afford, but in both cases I got out free. Maybe in both cases, the cops KNEW they were wrong and didn't want to press the issue since I have a clean record.

But my very strong suspicion is that U-Hauls attract cops like twisters to trailer courts. They KNOW you're just passing through carrying all of your earthly possessions and that makes you extremely vulnerable for whatever revenue generators they can conjure up on the spot. They know you'll be wanting to go on your way ASAP and are highly unlikely to cross several states to contest the charges in court next week. Especially since you'll be wrapped up in a new job and moving into a new house at the same time. So they feel very comfortable in writing up tickets they know you're very likely to pay with no hassles to them.
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Old May 31st, 2008, 05:33 PM   #84
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Twice in my life I've been forced into making long-distance moves via rented U-Haul trucks. On BOTH occasions, I was stopped for "traffic violations" while driving the speed limit on open highways with practically no other vehicles in sight. Keep in mind that I have a total of five traffic tickets in 40 years of driving.
I'm guessing drugs and illegals. Like bees to honey. Probably when they check out your license with no priors, etc. the know you are straight.
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Probably when they check out your license with no priors, etc. the know you are straight.
Ja, ich habe dass gedacht...aber leider nichts passierten. Die ganze Situation war hecktisch! Einfach WAHNSINN!

So, as an update: A family member who has the means to finance a lawyer is helping me out. Funny thing is that the Lawyer cannot find ANYTHING on me at the courthouse, at the jail nor anywhere else for that matter! Also, my lawyer cannot find any charges or what charges where against me at the time of arrest nor at anytime after that or why I need to go to court. It was not the Arkansas State Police, rather the Arkansas Highway Patrol and this matter is about to be pushed to its fullest now that I have a lawyer :)

Thanks guys!
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So, as an update: A family member who has the means to finance a lawyer is helping me out. Funny thing is that the Lawyer cannot find ANYTHING on me at the courthouse, at the jail nor anywhere else for that matter! Also, my lawyer cannot find any charges or what charges where against me at the time of arrest nor at anytime after that or why I need to go to court. It was not the Arkansas State Police, rather the Arkansas Highway Patrol and this matter is about to be pushed to its fullest now that I have a lawyer :)

Thanks guys!
My guess is the whole affair for all intents and purposes never happened.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #87
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My guess is the whole affair for all intents and purposes never happened.
Save for the money put up for bail and cost of towing, numbness still in my hands, my shoulders still hurt and that whatever happened is going to be found out.
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My guess is the whole affair for all intents and purposes never happened.
Of course it happened. He posted the "papers" which were incompletely filled out by "officer Smith."---the line on which the charge was to be specified was omitted.

So, unless our just home to America poster is a total liar and con, something is really really wrong--- as in he was roughed up and ripped off by someone acting under color of law; wearing a uniform; etc.

I predict someone will be going to jail. Sounds like a good old fashioned shake down to me.

Or, we aren't being told the truth. But, I do believe the poster. He has an authentic ring to his writing and what appear to be authentic documentation.
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Ja, ich habe dass gedacht...aber leider nichts passierten. Die ganze Situation war hecktisch! Einfach WAHNSINN!
Wirklich! Aber sicher! (und schade, auch)

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Save for the money put up for bail and cost of towing, numbness still in my hands, my shoulders still hurt and that whatever happened is going to be found out.
I SO want to here the end of this story. Don't you know they will all being doing the Aztec Two-Step trying to deny, obfuscate, and shift blame!!
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Of course it happened. He posted the "papers" which were incompletely filled out by "officer Smith."---the line on which the charge was to be specified was omitted.

So, unless our just home to America poster is a total liar and con, something is really really wrong--- as in he was roughed up and ripped off by someone acting under color of law; wearing a uniform; etc.

I predict someone will be going to jail. Sounds like a good old fashioned shake down to me.

Or, we aren't being told the truth. But, I do believe the poster. He has an authentic ring to his writing and what appear to be authentic documentation.
You seem to have missed the intended irony in my post.
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