How many would/would've paid for a "How To Clean Your Gun" class - Page 5

skippythenurse · May 15th, 2008, 04:41 AM

I voted "No" mainly because instruction manuals already has the instructions on how to take apart your designated firearm. And if you have any more questions, take it to your local, friendly gun shop and somebody there will give you some advice.

However, I believe Top Gun Range here in Houston has a course on firearms handling that includes how to take apart and clean your handgun.

Jaystekan · May 15th, 2008, 08:17 AM

Putting together a cleaning class would be kinda difficult. There are so many different types of handguns out there that the class would take hours to cover them all. How would a class be taught when you have glocks, xds, 1911s, Kahrs, etc.. all in the same class? Seems to me that a simple class on proper cleaning technique wouldn't be feasible.

Cupcake · May 15th, 2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaystekan

Putting together a cleaning class would be kinda difficult. There are so many different types of handguns out there that the class would take hours to cover them all. How would a class be taught when you have glocks, xds, 1911s, Kahrs, etc.. all in the same class? Seems to me that a simple class on proper cleaning technique wouldn't be feasible.

Maybe "class" was an inaccurate thing to call it. What I meant was: Buy a gun, and instead of a quick field strip demo (if that), for an extra $20 or so an shop employee sits with you and cleans and lubes it with you. It'd be optional, and take maybe 20-30 minutes. That's also an opportunity to sell the customer kits, solvents, cleaning mats, and any other extras you can pitch. Intended mostly for newbies.

ccw9mm · May 15th, 2008, 09:05 AM

Would, and did when I purchased my first pistol. Wilson Combat had a video at the time which covered the Browning Hi-Power and BDM. It covered all the basis very well, I thought.

Holdcard · May 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM

I voted yes, but it would have to be specific to a gun I own. I have the basics down, field strip etc. It's the detail cleaning that I lack experience in. What to take apart every time and what NOT to take apart every time. Where and how much to oil etc. I know some of this is covered in the manuals but the description is very vague.

I've also found that the manuals don't always warn you of spring loaded parts. Many times I've spent some time looking for a part that disappeared on me while following the directions.

There are also a lot of techniques for putting things back together that are not covered in the manual. Little tricks or tools that make reassembly much easier.

Holdcard

FN1910 · May 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM

It would be nice if gun manufacturers would include a video on how to strip, clean, maintain and put it back together your gun with it. Optionally they can posti it on line. The basics are the same for each gun but it varies so that what applies for one may not for another. There are little tricks for each gun that the manual leaves out and causes problems expecially on new guns.

For instance on my Taurus PT-111:

1. Unload the #@$%^# thing.
2. Lock the slide back
3. Rotate the takedown pin
4. Release the slide and let it move forward a hair then lock it back and the pin will pop out to a point it can easily be removed.
5. Remove the takedown pin
6. Release the slide, pulle the trigger and remove the slide.

I post this as the manual doesn't tell you about step 4. and as you break it in this step won't really be needed. Little things like this are waht drive people crazy. I saw a post by one person that was having all kinds of trouble with his because he didn't know to pull the trigger before removing the slide.

On some guns pulling the trigger will cause problems. Then there is the matter of over of under lubricating and whether to use grease or oil.

A class would be nice but the manufacturers need to do a better job with their instructions instead of including so much fine print like do not dry-fire Kel-Tec's.

Holdcard beat me by a few seconds.

gwhall57 · May 15th, 2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rmarcustrucker

I love detail cleaning my firearms...always end up with parts left over....I figure it's parts I didn't need......right?

Way cool! Keep it up and you'll have enough "left over" parts to build another gun!

FN1910 · May 15th, 2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmarcustrucker

I love detail cleaning my firearms...always end up with parts left over....I figure it's parts I didn't need......right?

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Originally Posted by gwhall57

Way cool! Keep it up and you'll have enough "left over" parts to build another gun!

Anyone with a P3AT knows that part 115 is not needed otherwise KT would have made some mention of it in the manual. I would venture to say that 1/4 of all P3AT's in existence don't have that part in them any more.

bmcgilvray · May 15th, 2008, 05:06 PM

What's part 115?

teknoid · May 15th, 2008, 05:49 PM

No for me. I've always been a "RTFM" kind of guy. Been taking stuff apart and putting it back together since I was a kid. It drove my folks nuts, but I make a pretty decent living doing it now.

I do field service on tons of different systems. The "training" we get is a joke, and we work alone. If you can't figure it out on your own, you (and the customer) are SOL.

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May 15th, 2008, 08:17 AM	#42
Jaystekan Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NC Posts: 297	Putting together a cleaning class would be kinda difficult. There are so many different types of handguns out there that the class would take hours to cover them all. How would a class be taught when you have glocks, xds, 1911s, Kahrs, etc.. all in the same class? Seems to me that a simple class on proper cleaning technique wouldn't be feasible. __________________ The pen is mightier than the sword — unless you are in a swordfight!

May 15th, 2008, 09:05 AM	#44
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May 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM	#45
Holdcard Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Phoenix, Az. Posts: 323	I voted yes, but it would have to be specific to a gun I own. I have the basics down, field strip etc. It's the detail cleaning that I lack experience in. What to take apart every time and what NOT to take apart every time. Where and how much to oil etc. I know some of this is covered in the manuals but the description is very vague. I've also found that the manuals don't always warn you of spring loaded parts. Many times I've spent some time looking for a part that disappeared on me while following the directions. There are also a lot of techniques for putting things back together that are not covered in the manual. Little tricks or tools that make reassembly much easier. Holdcard __________________ If You Want To POPULATE Heaven You Have To PLUNDER Hell!! 4th Man Ministries

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May 15th, 2008, 04:41 AM	#41
skippythenurse Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, TEXAS!! Posts: 345	I voted "No" mainly because instruction manuals already has the instructions on how to take apart your designated firearm. And if you have any more questions, take it to your local, friendly gun shop and somebody there will give you some advice. However, I believe Top Gun Range here in Houston has a course on firearms handling that includes how to take apart and clean your handgun.

May 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM	#46
FN1910 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SC Posts: 877	It would be nice if gun manufacturers would include a video on how to strip, clean, maintain and put it back together your gun with it. Optionally they can posti it on line. The basics are the same for each gun but it varies so that what applies for one may not for another. There are little tricks for each gun that the manual leaves out and causes problems expecially on new guns. For instance on my Taurus PT-111: 1. Unload the #@$%^# thing. 2. Lock the slide back 3. Rotate the takedown pin 4. Release the slide and let it move forward a hair then lock it back and the pin will pop out to a point it can easily be removed. 5. Remove the takedown pin 6. Release the slide, pulle the trigger and remove the slide. I post this as the manual doesn't tell you about step 4. and as you break it in this step won't really be needed. Little things like this are waht drive people crazy. I saw a post by one person that was having all kinds of trouble with his because he didn't know to pull the trigger before removing the slide. On some guns pulling the trigger will cause problems. Then there is the matter of over of under lubricating and whether to use grease or oil. A class would be nice but the manufacturers need to do a better job with their instructions instead of including so much fine print like do not dry-fire Kel-Tec's. Holdcard beat me by a few seconds.

May 15th, 2008, 05:06 PM	#49
bmcgilvray Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: North Texas Posts: 984	What's part 115?

May 15th, 2008, 05:49 PM	#50
teknoid Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lower Slobovia Posts: 227	No for me. I've always been a "RTFM" kind of guy. Been taking stuff apart and putting it back together since I was a kid. It drove my folks nuts, but I make a pretty decent living doing it now. I do field service on tons of different systems. The "training" we get is a joke, and we work alone. If you can't figure it out on your own, you (and the customer) are SOL.