Old Unused Guns

nkanofolives · May 14th, 2008, 03:23 PM

Hello all, I need your help...

My grandfather died about 12 years ago, when I was 12. I inherited some guns from him. I lived in the People's Republic of Kalifornia at the time. Currently I do not have possession of the guns. In short we need to wait till my step-grandmother dies before the guns can leave the state...something about the Trust...don't ask...(guns are currently safe under my parents bed). In the last 12 years, the guns have NOT been fired. I am going to the parents house this weekend for my sisters graduation.

I was intending to have Sunday morning be gun cleaning day...

Here is the inventory I remember:

* Browning 30-06 bolt action rifle, with scope
* Browning 12 gauge, the barrel breaks off for storage
* German Lugar (not sure on size/caliber)
*Another gun, I think it is German, I think it is a Mauser???, clip (not magazine) top fed, it is stored in a small wood case which can be clipped on to the back end (to make it a mini rifle?)

Is it even necessary for me to break down the guns, clean and oil them? Or should I just leave them where they have been for the last 12 years? They will probably be in my possession in the next 24 months as my step-grandmother is 94 years old and has very late stage Alzheimer's.

Help me out...

msgt/ret · May 14th, 2008, 03:42 PM

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*Another gun, I think it is German, I think it is a Mauser???, clip (not magazine) top fed, it is stored in a small wood case which can be clipped on to the back end (to make it a mini rifle?)

That sounds like a model 1896 Broomhandle here is some info on it. The Mauser model 1896 Broomhandle

As far as the others just inspect and clean as necessary paying particular attention to looking for rust, and just a light coat of oil.

If it is a model 1896 be very, very careful if you field-strip it, I do not remember which part it is but if reversed the gun will go back together but it will lockup and cannot be dissembled again without a special tool.

nkanofolives · May 14th, 2008, 03:55 PM

msgt/ret

Yes that's it!!!! Thanks!!!

Cofaler · May 18th, 2008, 10:29 PM

With Lugers increasing in value like they are, and possibly the Broomhandle Mauser, I would be more concerned with preservation without unnecessary field stripping. Wipe down and lube to prevent corrosion, but don't take them apart until you get them in your possesion and find out exactly what you have. In this day and age, some very interesting and significant historical pieces are being brought out of closets, attics, etc and passed down to people who have no interest in history or firearms. Hats off to you for educating yourself. I would take pictures of them and make notes of any markings, so you can start your research and find out what you have. Congratulations.

falcon1 · May 18th, 2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cofaler

With Lugers increasing in value like they are, and possibly the Broomhandle Mauser, I would be more concerned with preservation without unnecessary field stripping. Wipe down and lube to prevent corrosion, but don't take them apart until you get them in your possesion and find out exactly what you have. In this day and age, some very interesting and significant historical pieces are being brought out of closets, attics, etc and passed down to people who have no interest in history or firearms. Hats off to you for educating yourself. I would take pictures of them and make notes of any markings, so you can start your research and find out what you have. Congratulations.

+1000!!! You likely have a wonderful, desirable Luger and wonderful, desirable Mauser...or you may have an incredibly valuable Luger and/or Mauser. Congratulations indeed!

Ghettokracker71 · May 18th, 2008, 11:43 PM

Whoa, thats remarkable

Bob The Great · May 19th, 2008, 12:32 AM

I would definitely wipe them down, but, as was suggested, don't break them down until you know exactly what they are. If they've lasted this long, a little while longer isn't going to ruin them.

I've always wondered about those C96's with the holster/stock. Would those be considered short-barreled rifles, and therefore NFA items?

HotGuns · May 19th, 2008, 01:03 AM

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I've always wondered about those C96's with the holster/stock. Would those be considered short-barreled rifles, and therefore NFA items?

Should be pre existing. Curio's and relics are exempt.

msgt/ret · May 19th, 2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HotGuns

Should be pre existing. Curio's and relics are exempt.

This is from the BATFE removing the C96 and shoulder stock from the NFA and listing them as antiques.

Firearms Curios or Relics List

Bob The Great · May 19th, 2008, 09:16 AM

Cool. Thx for the info.

May 14th, 2008, 03:23 PM	#1
nkanofolives Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 97	Old Unused Guns Hello all, I need your help... My grandfather died about 12 years ago, when I was 12. I inherited some guns from him. I lived in the People's Republic of Kalifornia at the time. Currently I do not have possession of the guns. In short we need to wait till my step-grandmother dies before the guns can leave the state...something about the Trust...don't ask...(guns are currently safe under my parents bed). In the last 12 years, the guns have NOT been fired. I am going to the parents house this weekend for my sisters graduation. I was intending to have Sunday morning be gun cleaning day... Here is the inventory I remember: * Browning 30-06 bolt action rifle, with scope * Browning 12 gauge, the barrel breaks off for storage * German Lugar (not sure on size/caliber) *Another gun, I think it is German, I think it is a Mauser???, clip (not magazine) top fed, it is stored in a small wood case which can be clipped on to the back end (to make it a mini rifle?) Is it even necessary for me to break down the guns, clean and oil them? Or should I just leave them where they have been for the last 12 years? They will probably be in my possession in the next 24 months as my step-grandmother is 94 years old and has very late stage Alzheimer's. Help me out...

May 19th, 2008, 12:32 AM	#7
Bob The Great Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 1,451	I would definitely wipe them down, but, as was suggested, don't break them down until you know exactly what they are. If they've lasted this long, a little while longer isn't going to ruin them. I've always wondered about those C96's with the holster/stock. Would those be considered short-barreled rifles, and therefore NFA items? __________________ "A well-educated electorate, being necessary to the continuance of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed." Is this hard to understand? Then why does it get unintelligible to some people when 5 little words are changed?

May 19th, 2008, 09:16 AM	#10
Bob The Great Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 1,451	Cool. Thx for the info. __________________ "A well-educated electorate, being necessary to the continuance of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed." Is this hard to understand? Then why does it get unintelligible to some people when 5 little words are changed?

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May 14th, 2008, 03:55 PM	#3
nkanofolives Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 97	msgt/ret Yes that's it!!!! Thanks!!!

May 18th, 2008, 10:29 PM	#4
Cofaler Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 27	With Lugers increasing in value like they are, and possibly the Broomhandle Mauser, I would be more concerned with preservation without unnecessary field stripping. Wipe down and lube to prevent corrosion, but don't take them apart until you get them in your possesion and find out exactly what you have. In this day and age, some very interesting and significant historical pieces are being brought out of closets, attics, etc and passed down to people who have no interest in history or firearms. Hats off to you for educating yourself. I would take pictures of them and make notes of any markings, so you can start your research and find out what you have. Congratulations.

May 18th, 2008, 11:43 PM	#6
Ghettokracker71 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 922	Whoa, thats remarkable