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Old June 23rd, 2008, 04:18 PM   #21
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I've done the eye dominance test, and I'm right hand, right eye. Isn't dry firing a weapon bad for it? That's what I've been told anyway. I do like the idea of dry firing though. With dry firing I wouldn't get that "surprise" to anticipate though. But I could still work on my trigger pull.
Dry firing is bad for some weapons, particularly rim-fire weapons that have the striker contact hard metal if there is no cartridge in it.

Dry firing will not hurt a Glock and will probably improve the trigger over time.

As far as you not getting the surprise to anticipate, that is actually the purpose of it. By not getting the recoil, you do not practice bad habits. The range should be a place where you confirm your practice is paying off, not necessarily the primary place to practice.

If you only shoot at the range, most people will begin to anticipate the recoil and incorporate it into their grip/trigger pull/aim, etc. and continue to be frustrated that they are not improving.

Also, don't run 500 rounds through your gun on a range trip. Fatigue will alter your technique and you will be incorporating bad habits into your muscle memory.

If you are having trouble shooting your firearm and others, it might be a good idea to back off a little and either buy or borrow a .22. With low/no recoil, you can develop consistency without hurting your hands or your pocket book.

But, seriously, a good instructor can do in an afternoon what would take you months(if ever) to do on your own. Not to mention the price of the ammo you are sending down range.

I'd say work on dry firing every day for about two weeks, perhaps 50-100 times a day, and then hit the range.

You can watch internet videos of proper grips, stance, technique, etc and you can become a proficient shootist, but it will probably cost you a lot more in time, ammo, frustration and range fees than just getting some quality instruction in the first place.

Remember, the more you practice bad habits, the harder they will be to break.

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Old June 23rd, 2008, 04:24 PM   #22
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Why would the 23 be a poor gun to learn on, out of curiosity?


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Because it's small, lightweight, has lots of muzzle flip, the ammo is exp....

Do you need any more reasons?

IMHO the same can be said for any polymer compact .40. *Not knocking the gun, just illustrating a point*

IE The Springfield XD 40 Service.

Note the muzzle flip with this newer shooter.



While it's not all the gun's fault, it's hard to get the basics down with that much muzzle flip, felt recoil, and in most cases, it's going to cause a flinch.
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Going out on a limb but I think the man's grip leaves something to be desired, as well as his posture. But I see your points, none of which I disagree with. I don't have as much experience with the compact Glocks; I grew up on a G17.


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Going out on a limb but I think the man's grip leaves something to be desired, as well as his posture. But I see your points, none of which I disagree with. I don't have as much experience with the compact Glocks; I grew up on a G17.


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Hence why it's important to get ALL the fundamentals right. Shooting with that gun and poor fundamentals makes more issues to fix.

That's one of my first students and by the end of the day, I had his grip fixed, we're still working on the posture.
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Going out on a limb but I think the man's grip leaves something to be desired, as well as his posture. But I see your points, none of which I disagree with. I don't have as much experience with the compact Glocks; I grew up on a G17.
Well, I second that notion actually. That and the higher bore axis of that particular pistol. To me, that sort of recoil would be unacceptable in a pistol for 40cal or any other for that matter, and it may well be exaggerated due to the shooter's form in the picture. That right there isn't very conducive to a follow up shot. In my opinion of course. Not trying to find fault with the pistol of choice here---most issues depend and rely on the shooter.
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Well, I second that notion actually. That and the higher bore axis of that particular pistol. To me, that sort of recoil would be unacceptable in a pistol for 40cal or any other for that matter, and it may well be exaggerated due to the shooter's form in the picture. That right there isn't very conducive to a follow up shot. In my opinion of course. Not trying to find fault with the pistol of choice here---most issues depend and rely on the shooter.
Exactly, but if you can eliminate that from the problem with a softer recoiling gun to being with...

You know what, scratch that, we're getting off topic here.
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You might try shooting a target 22 get the basics down then go back to the glock and practice sight picture breath and trigger squeeze,fire slowly,also like people have said dry fire really helps
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Concentrate on the front sight, it should be sharply in focus. It needs to be lined up in the center of the back notch, and level with it, though the rear sight is going to be out of focus a bit. Put that sharply in-focus front sight on the target, and concentrate on holding it there while smoothly squeezing the trigger. The target will be somewhat fuzzy... don't worry about it, just hold on it and keep concentrating on that front sight.

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Do you have a consistent pattern? Low? Low and to the left? High and right?
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Go shooting with some friends that have other flavors, Glocks are one of the best pistols out there but they just don't fit some people.
I have had 2 and they(we) didn't like each other.
I put my hands on a USPc and fell in love.
I have a new Kimber that is fixing to become my new EDC that is close to perfect for me.

Get some training with this being your first gun, you will come out getting more for your money on some lessons vs spending it on ammo(prices)
I'm llooking into some courses myself right now
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