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Old June 25th, 2008, 10:46 PM   #11
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I have heard that dry firing damages the gun somehow... ??? ??? ? ?? ?
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Old June 25th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #12
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I have heard that dry firing damages the gun somehow... ??? ??? ? ?? ?
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Old June 25th, 2008, 10:55 PM   #13
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Depends on the gun. Doesn't hurt a 1911 in the least.
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Old June 25th, 2008, 10:56 PM   #14
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I clear and check the weapon any time I am about to pull the trigger dry. I also have a ballistic vest panel mounted on my wall that I use as a dryfire target. The place it is mounted is also the one direction from my townhouse I think of as reasonably safe in the event a round did go through it---high enough to go over pedestrians with a large berm on the other side of the parking lot.

I use all four rules every time I dry fire.

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Old June 25th, 2008, 11:18 PM   #15
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But dry firing violates the Four Rules.
Which one does it violate?
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I don't violate the rules when I dry fire... I thought the rules for dry fire don't change too. I always have a safe backstop, and I'm perfectly okay with destroying what I'm pointing my gun at.
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Old June 26th, 2008, 12:57 AM   #17
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I promise not to ever dry fire if you will buy me enough ammo that I can spend all my time on a live fire range.

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Old June 26th, 2008, 09:27 PM   #18
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Which one does it violate?
It violates the 'Every Gun is Loaded' rule.

It is the reason we read everyone posts that they check it once, twice, three time before pulling the trigger and still pointing the muzzle in a safe direction.

I am certainly not against dry firing. It is a valuable training method. But I have read many negligent discharges are directly related to dry fire. And perhaps it may lead to a split second of indecision should the need arise in a tactical situation.

I was just curious as to how people thought about the necessity to pay particular attention to the other rules while dry firing because they were violating one rule.
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I was just curious as to how people thought about the necessity to pay particular attention to the other rules while dry firing because they were violating one rule.
That is about one of the most protracted ways of thinking that I have ever seen on a discussion board...

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But I have read many negligent discharges are directly related to dry fire.
If they discharged, it wasnt related to dry fire. It was related to negligence.

Every gun is loaded until you clear it.
Therefore, after you clear it, it is not loaded.
So dry firing, does not violate any rule, since it has been cleared.
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That is about one of the most protracted ways of thinking that I have ever seen on a discussion board...
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If they discharged, it wasnt related to dry fire. It was related to negligence.
It can be related to dry fire because of the possibility that the gun is still unloaded as it was a few seconds prior. Of course it's negligence. But dry fire enables a scenario which can be more prone to negligence. Why else would it be recommended that you keep your ammo in a separate room while dry firing?


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Every gun is loaded until you clear it.
Therefore, after you clear it, it is not loaded.
So dry firing, does not violate any rule, since it has been cleared.
I must have missed the 'until' part. I do understand your opinion and I don't disagree with the underlying premise.
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