Open Carry and the police - Page 4

SIXTO · July 2nd, 2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pgrass101

To really test it you need to Mexican carry (in front waist band) a Taurus 85 with duct tape wrapped around the grip and trigger.

Plus don't bath or change clothes for a few days, see what type of reactions you get

I've actually done exactly that already as a narcotics detective... but of course in those neighborhoods, its business as usual.

Tubby45 · July 2nd, 2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Lowe

No permit required to open carry in Michigan, until you get into your car. Then it's considered to be concealed from that point on. Also, having a concealed pistol license exempts open carriers from all the open carry pistol free zones. (A list that is nearly identical to CCW PFZ's)

I will add to this that a person OCing on a motor vehicle such as ATV, motorcycle, snowmobile, etc must have a CPL. It may be plainly in view, but the law states motor vehicle=concealed=CPL. You can OC on your ATV, etc if you have a CPL.

You can carry handguns or long guns on your pedal bicycle without a permit, uncased, and loaded and it is completely 100% legal. A bicycle is not a motor vehicle.

SIXTO · July 2nd, 2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Juggernaut

But any time an officer of the law stops you in VA is considered an "arrest". You may be let go, summoned to appear, or charged and booked.

Not to get off topic, but I think you might be confused between a detainment and arrest. Its not an arrest unless there is a charge, be it speeding or murder.

DaveH · July 2nd, 2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SIXTO

Not to get off topic, but I think you might be confused between a detainment and arrest. Its not an arrest unless there is a charge, be it speeding or murder.

That's the take of LEOs around here.

In addition Virginia Code says:

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6VAC20-120-20. Definitions.

The following words and terms, when used in this chapter, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.
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"Criminal history record information" means records and data collected by criminal justice agencies on adult individuals consisting of identifiable descriptions and notations of arrests*, detentions, indictments, informations, or other formal charges and any disposition arising therefrom.

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* Emphasis added

I know that every traffic stop does not end up as an arrest there.

I think we are disconnecting, somewhere, but not sure where.

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