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Old August 5th, 2008, 01:52 AM   #21
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I was taught gun safety by an uncle since I was young. I could recite the three rules of safety he taught me easily. But I was fascinated by guns and also irresponsible with them (no one seemed to notice). At age 12, I accidentally shot one of my friends with a .38 my mom kept in her dresser. Many in my family were shocked and devastated.

The moral of the story: keep your guns locked up at home! Teach your kids how to use them, to respect them, and to use them safely (I do). Watch for signs of carelessness or negligence in the way your kids talk about or use guns. But at the end of the day, you can never take that shot back. Never!!!

I use a GunVault to keep my weapon accessible but also secure and away from my kids. I would encourage you and everyone else to do something similar.
Maybe if you had known there were four rules of safety rather than three, you wouldn't have shot your friend.
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Old August 5th, 2008, 07:54 AM   #22
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Curiosity causes a lot of accidents if you teach your kids gun safety and show them how they work and take them shooting it takes away their curiosity,but on the other hand you have no control over what happens when you aren't home,Your child could go to the bathroom and his friend go snooping around and find the gun,my gun is on me or by me 24/7
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Old August 5th, 2008, 09:19 AM   #23
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Maybe if you had known there were four rules of safety rather than three, you wouldn't have shot your friend.
Maybe, I have since added a few rules to my list. But the problem wasn't that I didn't know. The problem was that I did what I knew I shouldn't. I treated a firearm as if it was unloaded.

Coincidently, when is the last time one of your children did something they knew they shouldn't? --> Keep those guns locked up and out of the reach of children!
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Old August 5th, 2008, 05:24 PM   #24
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I was taught gun safety by an uncle since I was young. I could recite the three rules of safety he taught me easily. But I was fascinated by guns and also irresponsible with them (no one seemed to notice). At age 12, I accidentally shot one of my friends with a .38 my mom kept in her dresser. Many in my family were shocked and devastated.

The moral of the story: keep your guns locked up at home! Teach your kids how to use them, to respect them, and to use them safely (I do). Watch for signs of carelessness or negligence in the way your kids talk about or use guns. But at the end of the day, you can never take that shot back. Never!!!

I use a GunVault to keep my weapon accessible but also secure and away from my kids. I would encourage you and everyone else to do something similar.
I appreciate you sharing that story. That's anyone's worst nightmare.
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If your not comfortable with being able to keep control of your pistol at all times, when your child or your childs friends etc. are around, then you have a few choices.

Either a cable lock, trigger lock, or a safe of some type so they can't get access.

I have a pile of trigger locks that aren't used, I use the cable locks for things other than guns, and choose to use a $40 quick access safe to secure a few loaded handguns at home.

My 5 year old will not touch a gun, other than his pop guns or toys. He understands that they are not for him. However there are other people that come into my house and it is not worth the risk. So if the loaded handgun is not on my hip, it is in the quick access safe.

Good luck.
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Old August 5th, 2008, 09:39 PM   #26
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I grew up on a farm and gun safety was just what you did. I don't remember any specific training, just learning from my dad. I've never shot anyone.
However, that was in the days when schools taught, "respect others."
Now, I fear schools teach, "you can do anything."
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Old August 6th, 2008, 08:46 AM   #27
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I keep everything locked up that isn't on my person. Sometimes I'll leave a pistol on the table if no other kids are at our house but ours. (11 & 14). They both know how to shoot, and because they are home alone sometimes I wanted them to be able to arm themselves in a pinch. They each have 1/2 of the code for the gunlocker. I'd really like to be able to give the entire thing t each of them, and they are great kids who are very good about gun safety but they are still kids and peer pressure can be a huge influence in any kids' live. So, they are limited to being able to access their rifles if they BOTH agree that there is a need. They also have other rules that apply to before and after getting their guns. It's the best I think I can do.
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yep. either on the body or in a quick access safe is the way to go
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Old August 6th, 2008, 02:12 PM   #29
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I've taken care of kids who have been on both ends of the gun. My poor kids will likely not be trusted completely until they are paying their own bills and living in their own houses. It's not just how mature and knowledgable your child is, there is so much more than that.

Children in groups are like barflies, the more of them there are, the stupider they get. Hence even the brightest and best of them can be dumbed down and peer pressured into ANYTHING.

I've seen enough other parents with blind spots about thier children's flaws to know that I have to have those same sort of blind spots.

We use a safe for the handguns. Long guns are kept seperate from the ammo. At this point mine are not old enough to physically be able to load a long gun (even if they could get them out of the safe)so this is workable for us.

The most inconsolable parents I have met are the ones whose daughter was killed by their shotgun. 14 years old, had 3 friends over, one foolish kid loaded the gun to show the others his skill, then proceeded to accidently pull the trigger as the girl walked through the doorway. One kid dead, another living on our tax dollars in jail for what will most likely be the rest of his life. No drugs nor alcohol involved, just young teens hanging out....Mom was in the next room.

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Is it criminally negligent if I let my kid ride a bike without a bike helmet? In the city of Houston, they made it criminally negligent, which I think is ridiculous.
The answer to your question is an unequivocable "YES" without regard to whether there is a law prohibiting it. The sad part about people with your attitude is that the taxpayer gets to pay the hospital and care bills for the remainder of the child's life while you can continue to argue for "your" rights.
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