PLR-16 Long Range Pistol. - Page 2

Bud White · January 10th, 2006, 08:50 PM

looks good cant wait to see the range report

Kentucky · January 10th, 2006, 09:03 PM

Without the recoil buffer tube, etc., I imagine it will have a little bit of bite with a 62-69 gr. .223/5.56 !
I need to look for a 18 1/2 " holster now !!!!LOL.
Book retail shows around $699 or so but dealer let me have it for the street retail of $499. Have seen it since on the web for $475.

rocky · January 10th, 2006, 09:12 PM

The gas op. system should produce a bit more felt recoil. Especially with the light polymer construction. Don't know how accurate it will be. I have fired my AR carbine without use of the stock. It's hard for me to hit anything.

RSSZ · January 10th, 2006, 09:19 PM

Will not be "long range". Unless you put a short eye relief scope on it and shoot from a bench.Expect vels.under 3K also. This weapon is clearly designed to be fired from the hip. How long range can that be ?? Can you have fun with it ? DEFINATELY !! --------

gregarat · January 10th, 2006, 10:40 PM

So ya might need to get a bi-pod, mabe a Hart barrel. Then it might do some long range.

As for the recoil. I dont think it woud be awfull. A .223 isnt bad out of a Contender.

Kentucky · January 10th, 2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RSSZ

Will not be "long range". Unless you put a short eye relief scope on it and shoot from a bench.Expect vels.under 3K also. This weapon is clearly designed to be fired from the hip. How long range can that be ?? Can you have fun with it ? DEFINATELY !! --------

With a barrel length of 9.2 inches and a velocity of 2600 (with M193 cartridge) or better, it has to have a fairly 'long range' aspect compared to almost all other handguns wouldn't you think ?. Granted it's not a M4 carbine but it isn't too far off from the 10 " model carbine and still considered a handgun.I plan to use my Eotech holo sight on it or may also mount a laser I have on it .Like you say . I think it should be a handful of fun as well as a 'contender' (no capitol C intended of course)

HotGuns · January 11th, 2006, 12:36 AM

Id be willing to bet that the pistol wont be anywhere near the 2600FPS with that short barrel.

Even in a Contender pistol, standard .223 ammo isnt very efficent and lots of the powder only serves to make some impressive looking fireballs.

It would rank high in the fun factor, especially when cranking them off as fast as you can from the hip. That basketball sized fireball would look great at the range !

RSSZ · January 11th, 2006, 08:03 AM

I feel that the 2600fps figure that you threw out is about right. The exiting bullet is fast enough. The only limiting factor is the ability to target that bullet. Also,i feel that you can't compare the accuracy potential to a T/C or Encore in .223. I owned one(T/C) up until about 2 years ago and it was unbelieveably accurate with the proper handloads. The above weapon will be a FUNGUN but the accuracy just wont be there(IMO). I would expect(with the right scope)3" at 100yds. with the right loading would be the absolute best this weapon could do. I would gess-ta-mate that long range for this weapon would be 150-200yds. The fun factor will be high and the ammo will be cheap. Now all you gotta do is go to a holster crafter and get them to make you a shoulder rig so you can CC the weapon.---------

Kentucky · January 11th, 2006, 04:00 PM

Yep, a shoulder holster or across the chest type would be very nice for it. ! A Contender type or maybe even a long thigh type ?! The 2600 figure I mentioned is Kel Tec's figure for a M193 . There are even higher velocity available of course. Don't know what the barrel twist ratio is yet but 2600/M193 has been given. There are some 10" carbine M4's out there and I think this gun could be a very nice close quarters combat weapon. I'm not wanting it for anything over say 200 yards anyway. There is a front vertical hand grip picatinny mount for the hand guard available for it like the M4 etc. This would help steadiness as such.

bubbygator · January 11th, 2006, 07:42 PM

Stick a Crimson-Trace on that pickatinny rail, & shoot from the hip all over the place.

January 10th, 2006, 09:03 PM	#12
Kentucky Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 118	Without the recoil buffer tube, etc., I imagine it will have a little bit of bite with a 62-69 gr. .223/5.56 ! I need to look for a 18 1/2 " holster now !!!!LOL. Book retail shows around $699 or so but dealer let me have it for the street retail of $499. Have seen it since on the web for $475. __________________ diplomacy ... the art of saying "nice doggie"..while looking for a big rock !!

January 11th, 2006, 08:03 AM	#18
RSSZ Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,847	I feel that the 2600fps figure that you threw out is about right. The exiting bullet is fast enough. The only limiting factor is the ability to target that bullet. Also,i feel that you can't compare the accuracy potential to a T/C or Encore in .223. I owned one(T/C) up until about 2 years ago and it was unbelieveably accurate with the proper handloads. The above weapon will be a FUNGUN but the accuracy just wont be there(IMO). I would expect(with the right scope)3" at 100yds. with the right loading would be the absolute best this weapon could do. I would gess-ta-mate that long range for this weapon would be 150-200yds. The fun factor will be high and the ammo will be cheap. Now all you gotta do is go to a holster crafter and get them to make you a shoulder rig so you can CC the weapon.--------- Last edited by RSSZ; January 11th, 2006 at 09:13 AM.

January 11th, 2006, 04:00 PM	#19
Kentucky Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 118	Pr16 Yep, a shoulder holster or across the chest type would be very nice for it. ! A Contender type or maybe even a long thigh type ?! The 2600 figure I mentioned is Kel Tec's figure for a M193 . There are even higher velocity available of course. Don't know what the barrel twist ratio is yet but 2600/M193 has been given. There are some 10" carbine M4's out there and I think this gun could be a very nice close quarters combat weapon. I'm not wanting it for anything over say 200 yards anyway. There is a front vertical hand grip picatinny mount for the hand guard available for it like the M4 etc. This would help steadiness as such. __________________ diplomacy ... the art of saying "nice doggie"..while looking for a big rock !!

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January 10th, 2006, 08:50 PM	#11
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	looks good cant wait to see the range report

January 10th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#13
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,767	The gas op. system should produce a bit more felt recoil. Especially with the light polymer construction. Don't know how accurate it will be. I have fired my AR carbine without use of the stock. It's hard for me to hit anything.

January 10th, 2006, 09:19 PM	#14
RSSZ Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,847	Will not be "long range". Unless you put a short eye relief scope on it and shoot from a bench.Expect vels.under 3K also. This weapon is clearly designed to be fired from the hip. How long range can that be ?? Can you have fun with it ? DEFINATELY !! --------

January 10th, 2006, 10:40 PM	#15
gregarat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central NYS Posts: 856	So ya might need to get a bi-pod, mabe a Hart barrel. Then it might do some long range. As for the recoil. I dont think it woud be awfull. A .223 isnt bad out of a Contender.

January 11th, 2006, 12:36 AM	#17
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,174	Id be willing to bet that the pistol wont be anywhere near the 2600FPS with that short barrel. Even in a Contender pistol, standard .223 ammo isnt very efficent and lots of the powder only serves to make some impressive looking fireballs. It would rank high in the fun factor, especially when cranking them off as fast as you can from the hip. That basketball sized fireball would look great at the range !

January 11th, 2006, 07:42 PM	#20
bubbygator Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sarasota Posts: 62	Stick a Crimson-Trace on that pickatinny rail, & shoot from the hip all over the place.