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Old January 15th, 2006, 03:42 PM   #21
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I would step away from the XD and take a better look at the 1911, you will get more pistol for your money. That and everyone should own at least 2 1911's.
How is that so Bruces? Don't take this the wrong way monkey man , but if the brother wants an apple, telling him an orange is better doesn't help!
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Old January 15th, 2006, 03:43 PM   #22
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We have a XD40 compact (4 ich) in tu-tone finish for 435.00 with 3 mags.. like brand new.........http://ktpguns.com/index.html
Take a look.........you may see something you'll want..........of just check out the prices for reference your region..
I are confus-ed... do you have a 4 inch service model that you're calling the compact because the 3 inch is called the subcompact, or do you have a subcompact and you listed the wrong barrel length by mistake?
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Old January 15th, 2006, 03:47 PM   #23
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How is that so Bruces? Don't take this the wrong way monkey man , but if the brother wants an apple, telling him an orange is better doesn't help!
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Old January 15th, 2006, 05:07 PM   #24
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What is more pistol for your money?..

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I would step away from the XD and take a better look at the 1911, you will get more pistol for your money. That and everyone should own at least 2 1911's.
Being new at this (handguns) I guess I'm taking the logical approach; buy based on things such as reliability, manufacturer reputation, consumer acceptance, and the big one- affordability. I realize the XD line is not fashionable but it really fulfilled my criteria and it felt great in my hand. I priced 2 XD's Saturday, a bi-tone .40 SC and a bi-tone 9 Service. Both had 3 mags, NIB, and priced at 460. Every quality 1911 I looked at was 550 or higher. It also seems everything I read about a 1911 includes lots of customization to get them to "feel right". Beavertails and grip changes and trigger kits.

Like I said, the XD fits my hand nicely without any alterations. It shoots well and gives a nice satisfying bang when I pull the trigger. However, I'm open to suggestions about a 1911. Feel free to show me the error of my ways.

Gun show rolls by in about a month. Maybe I can wait till then. Thanks for the replies.
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I would step away from the XD and take a better look at the 1911, you will get more pistol for your money.
ive been a 1911 enthusiast for my entire life but i cant agree with this statement for several reasons. dollar for dollar (you did say "more pistol for your money") a 1911 is no value...not even for a base model.
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Every quality 1911 I looked at was 550 or higher.
at $550 you werent looking at "quality" 1911s. decent base models certainly, but you really dont get into "quality" until you break the $1000 mark and even then youre looking at medium grade. personally i prefer medium grade 1911s because theyre tuned to shoot very well, yet theyre not tuned so tightly that they fail to feed/fire when dirty.


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the XD fits my hand nicely without any alterations. It shoots well
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avoid the 1911 for now. get more experience with handguns and eventually graduate up to it.
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Wrong wording...

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at $550 you werent looking at "quality" 1911s. decent base models certainly, but you really dont get into "quality" until you break the $1000 mark and even then youre looking at medium grade.
Point taken, I should have said this was the price for base models of quality manufacturers. And it really was more like $650 for a mil-spec Springfield. Colts and Remingtons were ++++.

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it really was more like $650 for a mil-spec Springfield.
Shop somewhere else, thats about $100 over what they usualy go for NIB.
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ive been a 1911 enthusiast for my entire life but i cant agree with this statement for several reasons. dollar for dollar (you did say "more pistol for your money") a 1911 is no value...not even for a base model.
Like I said its my world and you guys are in it

I guess I may have stumbled into a hornets nest here

I guess it all boils down to opinion, I would rather have a all steel pistol over a "plastic" pistol. But YMMV and thats cool, its your money buy what your happy with.
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It also seems everything I read about a 1911 includes lots of customization to get them to "feel right". Beavertails and grip changes and trigger kits.
Not true at all, well maybe if you buy a Rock Island 1911, but a SA Mil-spec or even a GI for that matter should "feel" the hand the same as any Colt or Rock River or Ed Brown etc. and last for more rounds than you'll ever shoot through it (with perodic spring changes about every 3500-4000 rounds).
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