Popular with the Discriminating Consumer?

Euclidean · January 15th, 2006, 04:12 PM

I've been pondering for a while... aren't there an awful lot of guns that the kind of people who frequent a gun forum consider to be popular, yet they really aren't?

I shall endeavor to explain. You guys all know what an AR15 is, what a CZ 75B is, what a Benelli Nova is, etc. etc. Maybe you don't have one maybe you do but you know what it is and it seems like a fair number of people have them because they talk about them all the time.

And yet, even if your collection is small, if you were to list off your babies to a less interested party, odds are pretty good you've got something a lot of people just haven't heard about.

I think a lot of things that are popular with the "gun culture" are not that big outside of it. For instance the XD pistols. Sure a couple of chain shops have picked them up and it seems like they fly off the shelves, but compare the number of XDs sold next to the Beretta 92 or just one model of Glock.

And the thing about it is, I'm not really talking about hard to get or even very expensive guns here per se. Honestly, how many people in the general public drool over say the K31?

We could extend this further to just about any platform imaginable for any job imaginable I think. What's something you can think of that only the more discriminating consumers seem to appreciate?

Bud White · January 15th, 2006, 04:15 PM

Your right im sure Euc what we know about others might not But i think your short changing the Xd it is very popular here on par with glocks

K31 or Vs24 or even the K98 im sure most wont know what they are if there not into guns but show them the Tommygun and they know what that is

P95Carry · January 15th, 2006, 04:54 PM

Euc - many folks, even some shooters included will I am sure base their ''knowledge'' quite a bit on Hollywood. Add to that some gun rags article info and that might be about it.

I can say with honesty that even after being into shooting as long as I have - near an adult lifetime - I am still ''discovering'' other guns I had not come across - often old classics but also I must confess I am not always ''up there'' with the new stuff on the market. In fact forums help me stay in touch a lot.

My most obvious example for your category would be the R9 - ''The Raw what?'' LOL!

Then too there are somewhat ''specialist/enthusiast'' guns too, like perhaps my BFR. I doubt too a lot of ''run-of-the-mill'' folks would know a CZ-52 or many other C&R examples.

Then too - there will probably be huge numbers of people who are aware of the famous "Colt .45" and when they see a Gov't A1 will nodd in recognition. Whether however those same folks would gain any meaning from ''Kimber'', "Wilson", "Les Bayer'', SA, etc is another matter - and that may include many ''ordinary'' gun shops too!

There are probably two or three main gun owner categories - the first could be the ''gun owner'' to whom probably ''a gun-is a gun-is a gun''! Then some middle ground where most major and obvious makes are known about and maybe owned.

Finally is perhaps your ''discriminating'' category at the top - folks like many of us who are enthusiasts and seek things outside of the usual - for either extra quality or special purpose etc.

QKShooter · January 15th, 2006, 06:24 PM

For SOMEBODY on the forum to post a comment or thread stating that they have actually handled & fired the I.M.I. Barak. Because the price is right & it's made by Israeli Military Industries which is a PLUS...& NOBODY knows much of anything about it...except for the fact that it's slightly odd looking.

AutoFan · January 16th, 2006, 04:06 AM

My Browning Hi-Power seems to always attract attention. One of my favorites (that I don't own) is a Swedish Mauser in 6.55mm.

rfurtkamp · January 18th, 2006, 11:23 PM

>What's something you can think of that only the more
>discriminating consumers seem to appreciate?

High Standard anything.

January 15th, 2006, 04:12 PM	#1
Euclidean VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,213	Popular with the Discriminating Consumer? I've been pondering for a while... aren't there an awful lot of guns that the kind of people who frequent a gun forum consider to be popular, yet they really aren't? I shall endeavor to explain. You guys all know what an AR15 is, what a CZ 75B is, what a Benelli Nova is, etc. etc. Maybe you don't have one maybe you do but you know what it is and it seems like a fair number of people have them because they talk about them all the time. And yet, even if your collection is small, if you were to list off your babies to a less interested party, odds are pretty good you've got something a lot of people just haven't heard about. I think a lot of things that are popular with the "gun culture" are not that big outside of it. For instance the XD pistols. Sure a couple of chain shops have picked them up and it seems like they fly off the shelves, but compare the number of XDs sold next to the Beretta 92 or just one model of Glock. And the thing about it is, I'm not really talking about hard to get or even very expensive guns here per se. Honestly, how many people in the general public drool over say the K31? We could extend this further to just about any platform imaginable for any job imaginable I think. What's something you can think of that only the more discriminating consumers seem to appreciate? __________________ I am The Armed Educator.

January 15th, 2006, 04:54 PM	#3
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Euc - many folks, even some shooters included will I am sure base their ''knowledge'' quite a bit on Hollywood. Add to that some gun rags article info and that might be about it. I can say with honesty that even after being into shooting as long as I have - near an adult lifetime - I am still ''discovering'' other guns I had not come across - often old classics but also I must confess I am not always ''up there'' with the new stuff on the market. In fact forums help me stay in touch a lot. My most obvious example for your category would be the R9 - ''The Raw what?'' LOL! Then too there are somewhat ''specialist/enthusiast'' guns too, like perhaps my BFR. I doubt too a lot of ''run-of-the-mill'' folks would know a CZ-52 or many other C&R examples. Then too - there will probably be huge numbers of people who are aware of the famous "Colt .45" and when they see a Gov't A1 will nodd in recognition. Whether however those same folks would gain any meaning from ''Kimber'', "Wilson", "Les Bayer'', SA, etc is another matter - and that may include many ''ordinary'' gun shops too! There are probably two or three main gun owner categories - the first could be the ''gun owner'' to whom probably ''a gun-is a gun-is a gun''! Then some middle ground where most major and obvious makes are known about and maybe owned. Finally is perhaps your ''discriminating'' category at the top - folks like many of us who are enthusiasts and seek things outside of the usual - for either extra quality or special purpose etc. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

January 15th, 2006, 06:24 PM	#4
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 20,000	I'm Still Waiting For SOMEBODY on the forum to post a comment or thread stating that they have actually handled & fired the I.M.I. Barak. Because the price is right & it's made by Israeli Military Industries which is a PLUS...& NOBODY knows much of anything about it...except for the fact that it's slightly odd looking.

January 18th, 2006, 11:23 PM	#6
rfurtkamp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 940	>What's something you can think of that only the more >discriminating consumers seem to appreciate? High Standard anything. __________________ Driver carries less than $45 worth of remorse.

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January 15th, 2006, 04:15 PM	#2
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	Your right im sure Euc what we know about others might not But i think your short changing the Xd it is very popular here on par with glocks K31 or Vs24 or even the K98 im sure most wont know what they are if there not into guns but show them the Tommygun and they know what that is

January 16th, 2006, 04:06 AM	#5
AutoFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 945	My Browning Hi-Power seems to always attract attention. One of my favorites (that I don't own) is a Swedish Mauser in 6.55mm.