Can I join the club? - Page 2

Roadrunner · January 20th, 2006, 01:08 PM

OK, an update with pics.

To clarify, it's a 1991A1 Commander with a blue finish. Just the basics thank you very much. Yes, it will be a carry gun (Gary's making me a holster and belt

), and yes, the blue will wear, but I can deal with that. Once the finish is worn, it will go out for a few 'enhancements' and a new finish (not sure which one yet). Pictures 2 and 3 show the problem with the thumb safety. It engages very positively and allows absolutely no movement of the hammer when engaged, so it is in fact safe. The problem is that the forward tip, which engages with the plunger, overtravels by about 1/8". It just feels sloppy. I may have a new Wilson safety fitted.

The grips are a bit more annoying. There's no excuse for the left grip to have left the factory like that. It's poor finish is pretty visible in the thumb safety pics and in Picture 4. Picture 5 is the opposite grip, which is beautiful. Yes, I do plan to replace these with slimline grips for carry, but I'd also like to hold on to the original factory grips as well. I just got off the phone with Colt, they said to send them in and they'll evaluate them then send a replacement if warranted. I'm not too pleased about having to pay shipping to get a simple grip panel replaced, but oh well. Their rep was very pleasant on the phone. I've also got two Cobra magazines from Tripp Research on the way and in a minute I'll order a Wilson 8 rounder with a flush-fit baseplate for carry. Tripp doesn't offer flush-fit baseplates yet or I'd probably go with theirs, I like the follower design better.

I detail-stripped the pistol last night for cleaning and familiarization. It is an elegant, beautiful, simple and efficient design, but man is it a ***** to take apart and put together! The insides had a little bit of crud and grease from the factory, so I cleaned it all out and lubed everything up with Tetra-Gun grease. It's worked well on my Kel-Tec. My brother and I also went to the local gun-club last night and got a membership, so now we can shoot at their indoor range for $3.00 a visit! They even let us share a membership since we live together. Really nice group of people, I can't wait to get out there and break this bad boy in. So do I get the secret handshake now, please please please?

P95Carry · January 20th, 2006, 01:29 PM

Bruce will have to decide on the handshake!! But I'd say you are in with a good chance

Excellent pics - thx for posting those. Well yeah that overtravel is easy to see but - it'd seem that even so the detent function still engages and, with safety function apparently good, no major safety issue as such.

Seems like the grip panel is just one of those shoddy ones that QC should have caught.

Disassembly/reassembly - gets easier over time

QKShooter · January 20th, 2006, 01:52 PM

We are unable to clue you in on the secret handshake until your "Holster By Gary" arrives.

I see you've got some Gold Dot there.
I've had lots of Good Luck with Speer ammo.
Real nice looking firearm BTW.
Let us know how that handgun is sending bullets out the front end after you've had the chance to get it a bit hot and dirty.

Bruces45 · January 20th, 2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QKShooter

We are unable to clue you in on the secret handshake until your "Holster By Gary" arrives.

no holster, no handshake

Nice pistol, sorry about the QC thing, I had some small blemishes on my new XSE as well.

The only thing that I dislike about the 1991 A1's is the trigger, that solid black trigger looks terrible, they could have at least put some round holes in it or something.

How are the edges on it? Pretty sharp? I had to dehone my XSE, but as your is blues, you may have to wait till you get it refinished before you start filing on it.

Congrats.

rstickle · January 20th, 2006, 03:04 PM

Bruce is getting slow in his old age (How many monkey years to a man year?), I expected to see him as message #2 in this thread, but he was down there.

David III · January 20th, 2006, 03:14 PM

Thanks for the photos! Yep, my Defender safety does exactly the same thing - and it does feel sloppy. I just left it though, it's my carry gun and it works. That grip is awful. Shouldn't have made it on a gun at all....
Bruce has a good point about the sharp edges, might feel around on the gun and see if anything would cut you. The Defender got about an hour with a little stone, some of the edges were like a knife.
I sure do like the blue guns. Carry one a couple years and it looks like it should - used and reliable.

Roadrunner · January 22nd, 2006, 02:41 AM

QKShooter, glad to hear more good things about the Gold Dots. I wish they were a bit easier to find, I had to special order these through my employer. I ordered some Hornady TAP rounds to try as well. I've got to put some more FMJ downrange before I try the JHPs.

Bruce, you're killing me man! Get on the horn and tell Gary to hurry up, I want my handshake and secret codeword dangit (JK Gary).

The trigger really doesn't bother me, at least not cosmetically. It could break about four lbs. lighter with a whole lot less travel and I wouldn't complain, but cosmetically I like it. I prefer the traditional look (nothing much more traditional out there than a blued Colt) so it was a no-brainer. The edges on this one aren't bad at all. I may break the edges on the hammer a bit, other than that it's very smoothly finished for a factory gun.

Bruces45 · January 22nd, 2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Bruce, you're killing me man!

Good things come to those who wait.

Bud White · January 22nd, 2006, 11:05 AM

Ahh dont worry youll get your # heck we havnt even give bruce one yet..

Bumper · January 22nd, 2006, 07:38 PM

Can you join the club? You already did!

January 20th, 2006, 01:29 PM	#12
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Bruce will have to decide on the handshake!! But I'd say you are in with a good chance Excellent pics - thx for posting those. Well yeah that overtravel is easy to see but - it'd seem that even so the detent function still engages and, with safety function apparently good, no major safety issue as such. Seems like the grip panel is just one of those shoddy ones that QC should have caught. Disassembly/reassembly - gets easier over time __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

January 20th, 2006, 01:52 PM	#13
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 20,000	Sorry But We are unable to clue you in on the secret handshake until your "Holster By Gary" arrives. I see you've got some Gold Dot there. I've had lots of Good Luck with Speer ammo. Real nice looking firearm BTW. Let us know how that handgun is sending bullets out the front end after you've had the chance to get it a bit hot and dirty. __________________

January 20th, 2006, 03:04 PM	#15
rstickle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 10,041	Bruce is getting slow in his old age (How many monkey years to a man year?), I expected to see him as message #2 in this thread, but he was down there. __________________ Rick EOD - Initial success or total failure

January 22nd, 2006, 02:41 AM	#17
Roadrunner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NW PA Posts: 672	QKShooter, glad to hear more good things about the Gold Dots. I wish they were a bit easier to find, I had to special order these through my employer. I ordered some Hornady TAP rounds to try as well. I've got to put some more FMJ downrange before I try the JHPs. Bruce, you're killing me man! Get on the horn and tell Gary to hurry up, I want my handshake and secret codeword dangit (JK Gary). The trigger really doesn't bother me, at least not cosmetically. It could break about four lbs. lighter with a whole lot less travel and I wouldn't complain, but cosmetically I like it. I prefer the traditional look (nothing much more traditional out there than a blued Colt) so it was a no-brainer. The edges on this one aren't bad at all. I may break the edges on the hammer a bit, other than that it's very smoothly finished for a factory gun. __________________ - Kurt “Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.” ~Pericles of Athens Primary Carry - Colt Commander .45 in a Brommeland Max-Con V

January 22nd, 2006, 07:38 PM	#20
Bumper Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 14,252	Can you join the club? You already did! __________________ Bumper Administrator DefensiveCarry.com Forum Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.

January 20th, 2006, 03:14 PM	#16
David III Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sturgeon, MO Posts: 745	Thanks for the photos! Yep, my Defender safety does exactly the same thing - and it does feel sloppy. I just left it though, it's my carry gun and it works. That grip is awful. Shouldn't have made it on a gun at all.... Bruce has a good point about the sharp edges, might feel around on the gun and see if anything would cut you. The Defender got about an hour with a little stone, some of the edges were like a knife. I sure do like the blue guns. Carry one a couple years and it looks like it should - used and reliable.

January 22nd, 2006, 11:05 AM	#19
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	Ahh dont worry youll get your # heck we havnt even give bruce one yet..

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