Do you s'pose the rumors are true - Page 6

Wayne · February 1st, 2006, 04:38 PM

I thought they went with the 9mm due to the higher cap. magazines. With Sig, Glock, and HK having .45's with 12+ rounds now, keeping the 9mm for just a few shots more may just not be worth it anylonger.

The only problem that I foresee is for Women Soldiers with small hands (and some men).

Wayne

BigEd63 · February 1st, 2006, 05:13 PM

My opion is if your in the combat arms part of the military then you'd best be able to handle all the combat arms in your MOS or get into a support MOS or get out all together.

And that means spending extra time with your weapons beyond the regular training schedule if at all possible.

Tom357 · February 3rd, 2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ExSoldier762

...As far as the Air Marshall program goes, I think this is a B-I-G mistake and might have been the result of a marketing campaign rather than concrete tests. The 357 sig is waaaay too LOUD and waaaay too overpenetrative for an airliner. ...

I think you are right about perception. According to a forensic ballistician I know at the Va. State Police lab, here, the VSP and Richmond Police are seeing 14"-16" of penetration, routinely, with premium JHP ammo in 357SIG. They are not seeing the overpenetration you claim. This is all I shoot, and I'm not seeing the overpenetration. Call it loud, but I maintain that it is equivalent in noise to premium defensive ammo in .40 S&W. Frankly, any unmuffled handgun round going off inside an airliner is going to be painfully loud.

Besides, we all know that the only realistic cartridge of the future for the JCP is the 357SIG, because it turns everything to vegetable paste for 6" around the POI. You could verify this, too, if it didn't knock a body 20 yards before it let the body fall. And don't forget the handy airliner test: where the 357SIG takes down a 757 from two miles. And the flame-thrower effect of the muzzle blast makes 12ga dragonbreath rounds obsolete. Of course, what I like best is how the 357SIG bullets expand to 10 times their original size while gaining mass on the way through.

Euclidean · February 3rd, 2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom357

Besides, we all know that the only realistic cartridge of the future for the JCP is the 357SIG, because it turns everything to vegetable paste for 6" around the POI. You could verify this, too, if it didn't knock a body 20 yards before it let the body fall. And don't forget the handy airliner test: where the 357SIG takes down a 757 from two miles. And the flame-thrower effect of the muzzle blast makes 12ga dragonbreath rounds obsolete. Of course, what I like best is how the 357SIG bullets expand to 10 times their original size while gaining mass on the way through.

WOW I want one!

Bud White · February 3rd, 2006, 07:31 PM

Well if the 357 sig can do all that tom i thinks i need at least 2 of um

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February 1st, 2006, 04:38 PM	#51
Wayne Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 823	I thought they went with the 9mm due to the higher cap. magazines. With Sig, Glock, and HK having .45's with 12+ rounds now, keeping the 9mm for just a few shots more may just not be worth it anylonger. The only problem that I foresee is for Women Soldiers with small hands (and some men). Wayne

February 1st, 2006, 05:13 PM	#52
BigEd63 Ex Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 318	My opion is if your in the combat arms part of the military then you'd best be able to handle all the combat arms in your MOS or get into a support MOS or get out all together. And that means spending extra time with your weapons beyond the regular training schedule if at all possible.

February 3rd, 2006, 07:31 PM	#55
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gone from Here Posts: 17,375	Well if the 357 sig can do all that tom i thinks i need at least 2 of um