RoadRunner71

Wow! What a nut case!

Just because his publication doesn't carry stories about successfull self-defense it must never happen. Right!

__________________
"Mind own business"
"Always cut cards"

rottkeeper

''Yeah, I know, all the stories about gun violence are just a huge conspiracy from the liberal, gun-hating media. Please.''


He would have been correct in his statement above had he left out the Please.



''For every one story I ever see or hear about somebody actually defending themselves with a gun - to be honest, I can't remember the last time that happened -- I hear several dozen about some whack job going nuts with a gun, or somebody terrorizing his family or girl friend with a gun, or somebody who's gun accidently goes off in the house and causes a horrible tragedy.''


This statement is only true because of the gun hating media.



This guy is to stupid to breathe our air much less be quoted in the news, which only reaffirms that the media is biased against gun owners.

__________________
For as the lighting comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the son of man be. Mathew 24:27

NRA Member

Elk Hunter

"And don't get me started on the folks who say they have a right to own an assault weapon. Why? So they can hunt squirrels with an AK-47 while blathering about their second amendment rights?"

Another illogical argument from someone who does not know what the second amendment is about. 2A has nothing to do with hunting or squirrels.

BlackJack

Maybe somebody should send him a list of instances where people did use a gun in self defense and ask him to explain what happened?

I guess things like the shooting that was stopped by a CCW permit holder at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs a little over a year ago, saving over 100 lives, really didn’t happen? I guess it and dozens of other cases are just made-up stories for us to justify our desire to be “big and bad”?

I have no problem with opinions; everybody has and is entitled to their own. I do, however, have issues with media outlets that blatantly hide the truth and lie about things just to push their opinions on us. If they want to present their beliefs and opinions to us, thru the editorials, that is fine, but they should make sure that what is presented in those articles as fact is accurate.

Supertac45

What a wacko?

__________________
Les Baer 45
Sig Man
N.R.A. Patron Life Member
M.C.R.G.O.

BlackJack

OK, I just send a letter to the Editor. I almost didn't because I had to submit my name, address and phone number. I rarely give out my address, but this time, the more I thought about it, the more I wrote. Once it was written, I just could not help myself.

Here is what I sent, sorry for the length.



Gary Stein
South Florida Sun-Sentinel

After having read you article “Nothing good ever comes from a gun”, dated 3-16-2009, I wanted to express my disappointment with your distortion of what is basically an emotional issue.

I guess things like the shooting that was stopped by a CCW permit holder at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs a little over a year ago, saving over 100 lives, really didn’t happen?
Source: FOXNews.com - Colorado Shooting Highlights Churches' New Emphasis on Security - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

What about the recent (Feb. 2009) incident in Wellington FL where a Music Teacher had to defend himself and his wife when an armed man broke into their home at 2:00 O’clock in the morning.
Source: Popular music teacher kills armed intruder in Wellington home

Or maybe the recent (Jan 2009) incident where a Juliette man had to defend himself and his wife from a man who kicked in his door at a little past 9:00 at night and proceeded thru the kitchen and into the dinning room with a shotgun.
Source: NEWS Juliette Man Defends Home From Invasion

Is it your contention, or that of your publication, that these people should not have been allowed to defend themselves? Or do you dispute that these instances even happened?

Perhaps your viewpoint would be that these instances would never have happened to begin with if guns were illegal? Well, you may have some standing with that argument for the Colorado Springs incident, but I doubt it. You see, Criminals really do not care whether or not guns are illegal; they use them knowing full well that they are breaking the law already. However, in the other cases where it was a lone individual attacking a couple in their own home late at night, a baseball bat or a knife would be just as deadly and the incident would still have taken place, the difference is that there would be 4 more dead innocents. Even in the Columbine incident that you quoted in your article, it would have made no difference. The weapons that were used then were all obtained illegally with the express purpose of committing murder. Do you really think that somebody contemplating murder and then suicide would worry about breaking a gun control law?

You see, it is real easy to make “the numbers” say whatever you want them to. If guns were unavailable, would gun related crime drop? Probably. But the real question is what would happen to violent crime? And, with guns being outlawed, would criminals no longer use guns? The answer to both of these questions is no. If you bother to research the subject, you will find that the rate of violent crime did not go down when the Assault Weapon ban went into effect in 1994. You will also find out that as the various states have implemented “shall issue” laws regarding Concealed Carry Permits, allowing those who qualify to get a permit to carry a concealed handgun, not only have the predictions of “blood in the streets” not been fulfilled but the occurrence of violent crime has actually gone down. Go ahead and check the statistics for Florida.

You will also find that, despite your opinion that you should be able to decide what I can or can not do for recreation, the various versions of the AK47 currently available are actually less powerful than most hunting rifles AND have no more capabilities than any of the typical semi-automatic hunting rifles in use today for regular deer hunting. And, yes, people do also use these AK47 derivatives for hunting as well.

Well, what about the statistics from countries that have banned guns? They have a lower rate of gun violence than we do, don’t they? You will find that in the UK, where handguns are totally banned and everything else is strictly controlled, firearms are readily available to criminals and crimes are regularly committed with firearms. You will also notice that the rate of crimes committed with knives has drastically increased over the last few years. The rate of gun related crimes may have gone down, but the rate of violent crime has gone WAY up.

I have no problem with opinions; everybody has and is entitled to their own. I do, however, have issues with media outlets that blatantly hide or distort the truth and lie about things just to push their opinions on us. If they want to present their beliefs and opinions to us, thru the editorials, that is fine, but they should make sure that what is presented in those articles as fact is accurate.

I would like to say that I really do respect your feelings and opinions about guns. If you do not want to have guns in your home, I respect your decision and even applaud you for standing up for your views and opinions. However you, as an individual, loose all respect as soon as you attempt to ‘push” your opinions and values on me. If you want to have an open and objective discussion on the subject that is fine, but when you start telling me what I should do for recreation or what hobbies I should enjoy, well now you have gone beyond the acceptable limits of your position.

If you want to ban things that are dangerous, let’s take a look at something that is really dangerous, the automobile. After all, there are so many more deaths caused by the automobile than by guns ever year. According to the CDC there were 4.6 gun related deaths per 100,000 people in 2005, including both homicide and accidents, while there were 15.2 automobile related deaths, from accidents alone, per 100,000 people for the same year.
(source: Age-adjusted death rates for 113 selected causes by race and sex: United States, 2005) That is almost 3 ½ times the number caused by car accidents than ALL the gun related deaths, both accidental and criminal.

I understand that editorials are supposed to give an opinion, and therefore are generally one sided, however, in the future I really hope that you decide to at least try to make you articles somewhat factual. Yes, even an editorial that presents an opinion should still be factual and not distort the truth.

Tim C.

CTurner91

One thing among many the man fails to understand is if guns didn't exist a bg would simply use a sword, or a knife, or a sharp stick, or a broken piece of glass to attack people with. If guns were outlawed since criminals are, CRIMINALS ONLY GOOD GUYS WOULD BE DISARMED.. sorry for the caps.. I don't know how many times that needs to be said before these idiots get it through their head.. CRIMINALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAW!

"Yeah lets disarm the honest man so he cant defend himself from the guy intent on mass casualties followed by suicide yeah that sounds like a good plan right?!"

Guns are here and they aren't going anywhere, He'll wish he had one if hes ever got an invader in his house gutting and raping his wife and all he can do is stand there asking the guy to stop because That guy has a gun and he doesn't. Id like to see him 'use pepper spray, martial arts, walk away, or call the police' when that happens.

What will he do if hes ever in a shtf scenario and hes starving to death? throw rocks at a deer? please...

0018g

If this guy grew up on the South side of Chicago and he never felt threatened....well, that tells me all I need to know about him. He's a blithering idiot.

MP45Man

This moron would probably rationalize it away by saying something stupid like, ..."he could have taken the gun from me and used it against my family". Unfortunately, being stupid isn't illegal.

Guns and more

Then why do the police have them?