Nothing good ever comes from a gun - Page 4

NYcarry · March 19th, 2009, 11:11 AM

I hear Bahhhh Bahhh Bahhhh

Chevy-SS · March 19th, 2009, 11:51 AM

Wow, I guess you'd call him a real "anti-gunner".

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scottc · March 19th, 2009, 12:43 PM

Great letter blackjack-this guy's an idiot

paramedic70002 · March 19th, 2009, 01:48 PM

I guess Lexington, Concord, Yorktown, etc. were bad too. Maybe he should move to England.

BlackJack · March 19th, 2009, 04:49 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. I really do not expect to get any response, but I’ll let you know if I do, they are supposed to contact the submitter before publishing a letter.

Thanis · March 19th, 2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HotGuns

So Thanis, when some whacko goes out and starts his own personal massacre at a mall or somewhere,if "the answer is not more guns",then what IS the answer?...

I would think more armed citizens would help in the situation you provide.

Guy in a truck doing drive by. Guy in the bell tower with a bolt action 30.06 hunting rifle. Never had previous issues. No warnings. In some rare event, easy access to certain types of firearms is a factor that assisted him / her and is an unfortunate conquience of a society with easy access to firearms. I doubt armed citizens would do much to change those situations.

I don't think it provides the case for greater regulation, however I don't think it proves more guns is the solution. I'm not sure there is a solution for some of those events. It really has nothing to do with firearms. It is the conquences of living in a free society.

HotGuns · March 19th, 2009, 10:36 PM

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I doubt armed citizens would do much to change those situations.

Actually, the examples are many where armed citizens did exactly that.

Here is one famous case...a man with a scope rifle killing people from a bell tower.

CHARLES WHITMAN: THE TEXAS TOWER SNIPER - Crime Library on truTV.com

In this case, armed citizens made a difference.

Thanis · March 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HotGuns

Actually, the examples are many where armed citizens did exactly that.

Here is one famous case...a man with a scope rifle killing people from a bell tower.

CHARLES WHITMAN: THE TEXAS TOWER SNIPER - Crime Library on truTV.com

In this case, armed citizens made a difference.

No, I did not read your link.

The most well know guy in a tower story I know of. Your stretching. Terrible example. They had to make their way up a staircase. By the time they got to him he had just about done as much damage as he could. LEO responded. Has absolutely nothing to do with armed citizen (non-leo) CC preventing much of anything. 14 (or was it 15) people dead and wounded 32 others. Yes the non-leo shooting back helped give the officer a good shot. But thats it. For the most part, he had done his damage. You are proving the anti-gun people's point about pro-gun.

HotGuns · March 19th, 2009, 11:09 PM

Wrong again Thanis.

Man armed with an M1carbine helped police shoot the guy which ended the killing spree. Other shooters kept the guy pinned down.Citizen with rifles. When they started firing back at the shooter, it kept him from firing on others.

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You are proving the anti-gun people's point about pro-gun

Nope. You are using the anti-gun mentality that armed citizens cant do any good at all against somewhat bent on violence.

Besides,anti-gunners dont use points, or logic,or common sense. If they did, they wouldn't be anti-object...in this case, gun.

Thanis · March 19th, 2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HotGuns

...Nope. You are using the anti-gun mentality that armed citizens cant do any good at all against somewhat bent on violence....

Sometimes that is true. In some situations the armed citizens can't do any good against those bent on violence. I will not blame the victims (well, at least not all the time).

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Originally Posted by HotGuns

...Besides,anti-gunners dont use points, or logic,or common sense. If they did, they wouldn't be anti-object...in this case, gun.

You are pro-object. You are the same as the anti-gun journalist, just on the other side of the issue

March 19th, 2009, 11:11 AM	#31
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March 19th, 2009, 11:51 AM	#32
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March 19th, 2009, 12:43 PM	#33
scottc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Iraq Posts: 781	Great letter blackjack-this guy's an idiot __________________ Expecting a carjacker or rapist or drug pusher to care that his possession or use of a gun is unlawful is like expecting a terrorist to care that his car bomb is taking up two parking spaces.-Joseph T. Chew

March 19th, 2009, 01:48 PM	#34
paramedic70002 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Franklin, VA Posts: 2,680	I guess Lexington, Concord, Yorktown, etc. were bad too. Maybe he should move to England. __________________ Guns Save Lives. Paramedics Save Lives. But... Paramedics With Guns Scare People!

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March 19th, 2009, 04:49 PM	#35
BlackJack Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 278	Thanks for the feedback guys. I really do not expect to get any response, but I’ll let you know if I do, they are supposed to contact the submitter before publishing a letter.