Do you wear any pro gun shirts? - Page 2

RemMod597 · July 2nd, 2009, 11:57 AM

I wear my NRA hat pretty much everywhere. Only gun shirt I have is an NRA Family, Freedom and Firearms that gets worn occasionally.

wmhawth · July 2nd, 2009, 12:33 PM

Nope. I wear an NRA hat but that's as far as I'll go.

Hopyard · July 2nd, 2009, 12:49 PM

I believe that a very important part of "self-preservation" is not wearing clothing which will bring attention to oneself.

Also, not behaving in a manner that will bring attention to oneself.

Blend in.

If the folks on the street are in business suits, wear a suit. If they are in blue jeans wear blue jeans. Keep the message clothes to a minimum, or absent altogether.

No signs, no badges, no special logos. You never know what can set someone off.

Wasabi · July 2nd, 2009, 01:00 PM

I bought a cheap $10ish T-shirt last year at the gunshow that says 'Buy a gun, piss off a liberal.'. I thought it was appropriate during the campaigning times. I've only worn it a few times though as it's not very well made.

I also have a little ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE sticker that I thought about sticking on my car in a spot where I have a ding. Probably won't though.

Janq · July 2nd, 2009, 01:06 PM

As a general rule, no.
I very rarely break that rule but did so this past Sunday to interesting results.

I'd been driving in the morning to the S&W factory to meet with a manager there when along the highway I was trailing behind an Suburban in one lane and a Jeep 4dr SUVlet (I don't what the model name is) in the right most lane. The Jeep was towing a really long and wide boat trailer like for a boat many times too big for the vehicle and the jeep was having difficulty maintaining it's lane and thus the trailer was swerving a bit much for my own comfort. The Suburban appeared to be a friend of the Jeeps driver as they kept driving parallel to each other and at times would speed up and slow down for each other. Myself and a long line of traffic were stuck behind to witness this.
For persons local to W. MA I was on 91W headed toward Springfield coming from NoHo.

So anyway the highway finally opens up to three lanes and I attempt to pass on the right but the Suburban and the Jeep speed up and I'm blocked on the left by others behind me who also wish to pass. Note that I am not at all in any particular hurry as in fact I'm ahead of time and would be arriving early.
So I being concerned about this Jeep with the trailer weaving I choose to do what I think in the immediate is improper but choose to do so anyway because I do not want to be around that weaving trailer anymore. So I switch from the middle to the right most lane and attempt to pass on the right. I know this is wrong but I am only trying to get myself away from trouble. I hit the gas pedal and pull away from the Jeep as we approach a right hand radius in the highway. In the immediate I think to myself; "This would be a great place for a radar...".
Before I can finish my thought I see a cruiser and a State Police jump into the right line pointing his finger directly at me...and he looks pissed. Gosh darn it!!!

I know I'm busted and I know I did wrong. I hit the brakes and pull over immediately and directly in front of his parked cruiser on the right hand shoulder.
The officer pulls his car forward to my rear lights on and then contacts me at the passenger side window. He asks for license and reg. I already had pulled out my wallet so I hand him my DL and MA -LTCA permit. In this state alerting the police of carry status is not required by law. But I choose to do so anyway, conditionally.

he asks me what's the speed limit to which I report 65. He then states I was doing _84_ and asks me why. I try to remain calm and explain to him exactly what I've stated above and that I know I was wrong and am not going to try to lie or talk my way out of that. I just simply was concerned for my safety with the manner that the Suburban and Jeep were driving as prior coming from NoHo forward and that this was my first opportunity to pass.
he looks at my license and the LTC-A permit and then asks if I am carrying right now. I respond yes, I am. He asks where to which I reply right side 3 O'Clock at the hip and IWB. I also have a spare magazine on the opposite side and a can of OC/CS in my left rear pocket but I do not report this ashe did not specifically ask for more info.

And then he notes the t-shirt I just happened to be wearing.
It's a Northampton Police emblazoned 'Citizens Police Academy' shirt. that I had gotten from them a couple of months ago.
The only reason I selected it to wear outside away from my home is because I had no other clean shirt that I could wear to get dirty per my visit to S&W where I had expectation to be lifting some things and getting dirty. Otherwise I have NEVER worn that short beyond my own property. So I tell the officer I got it from the NoHo police as per the program I was participatory in.

The officer says wait here, walks around to the front of my truck, and then walks to it's rear on the left side using his flashlight to look around within it. I'm driving my wifes SUV which is full of car seat and kid stuff like strollers, blankets, and toys. It's a rolling toy box.

A second cruiser arrives as backup and he takes a position to our lower left maybe 10' to the rear.
I call S&W and let them know I've been pulled over for speeding at a rate that is high and I'll either be late, or arrested. The officer returns to my passenger side window which I fully did not expect. I figured he'd come to my drivers side and ask me to step out...to be cuffed.

He hands me back my documents and gave me a verbal warning to slow down. He states flatly that the ticket would have been $190 (!).
I thanked him and promised that I would be more careful with my speed.
I drove away and made it to S&W just 4 minutes late whilst driving at 65 the rest of the way.

Was it my shirt o my having had an LTC-A as issued from a generally ranti-gun town or was it that my demeanor was relatively calm and I choose to not try to BS the officer or was it that he understood and witnessed my situation as the Jeep and SUV were just to my left when he jumped into the road. There is no way he missed them.
I don't know. But the guys at S&W figure it was the shirt I was wearing.

That is the first time I've worn a gunfu shirt in public in over a year aside from when I teach BHE courses and have afterward stopped in at public places to grab a bite to eat while wearing such emblazoned shirts and hat.

As my own general rule I don't wear gunfu gear because I wish to remain grey as related to my carry condition. I stand out enough as it is being a minority in a place that is largely of the majority. Last thing I need or have desire to do is to wear my politics on my sleeve. I can cover that in person with people direct at my choosing and in the courses I instruct toward same.
But Sunday for some reason wearing that gunfu shirt seems to have been an item that saved my butt.

- Janq

retsupt99 · July 2nd, 2009, 02:09 PM

I usually don't wear 'gun shirts' but I do wear this quite often...
Embroidered Hats and get lots of questons.
---------------------------------------------------------

Janq...go buy a lottery ticket...it's certainly a lucky time for you.

Janq · July 2nd, 2009, 02:28 PM

Later that day Retsupt I did in fact buy a trio of lottery tix, one for each of the pots for this week.
I rarely buy lotto tix but then I rarely find myself side of the road talking to the po-po about my road speed and figuring on being arrested either.

I've not had the nerve to check the tix win/lose status.

- Janq

Wasabi · July 2nd, 2009, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retsupt99

I usually don't wear 'gun shirts' but I do wear this quite often...
Embroidered Hats and get lots of questons.

I love that hat. Gotta get one for those bad hair days (everyday).

trob09 · July 2nd, 2009, 02:39 PM

I frequently wear a t-shirt I got from Gunsite, which is really just a shirt with the Gunsite raven embroidered on the left breast. "Joe Public" will be clueless that this is - in fact - a pro-gun shirt. Heck many firearms enthusiasts are clueless. Occasionally I'll get someone who recognizes it and asks a question like "when did you take your 250"...

highoctane · July 2nd, 2009, 08:12 PM

Ive got a glock shirt and a few hunting shirts i wear on occasion but mostly i just wear normal everyday stuff.

July 2nd, 2009, 12:33 PM	#12
wmhawth Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 1,660	Nope. I wear an NRA hat but that's as far as I'll go. __________________ William

July 2nd, 2009, 01:00 PM	#14
Wasabi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lutz, FL Posts: 1,009	I bought a cheap $10ish T-shirt last year at the gunshow that says 'Buy a gun, piss off a liberal.'. I thought it was appropriate during the campaigning times. I've only worn it a few times though as it's not very well made. I also have a little ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE sticker that I thought about sticking on my car in a spot where I have a ding. Probably won't though. __________________ "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

July 2nd, 2009, 01:06 PM	#15
Janq VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,447	As a general rule, no. I very rarely break that rule but did so this past Sunday to interesting results. I'd been driving in the morning to the S&W factory to meet with a manager there when along the highway I was trailing behind an Suburban in one lane and a Jeep 4dr SUVlet (I don't what the model name is) in the right most lane. The Jeep was towing a really long and wide boat trailer like for a boat many times too big for the vehicle and the jeep was having difficulty maintaining it's lane and thus the trailer was swerving a bit much for my own comfort. The Suburban appeared to be a friend of the Jeeps driver as they kept driving parallel to each other and at times would speed up and slow down for each other. Myself and a long line of traffic were stuck behind to witness this. For persons local to W. MA I was on 91W headed toward Springfield coming from NoHo. So anyway the highway finally opens up to three lanes and I attempt to pass on the right but the Suburban and the Jeep speed up and I'm blocked on the left by others behind me who also wish to pass. Note that I am not at all in any particular hurry as in fact I'm ahead of time and would be arriving early. So I being concerned about this Jeep with the trailer weaving I choose to do what I think in the immediate is improper but choose to do so anyway because I do not want to be around that weaving trailer anymore. So I switch from the middle to the right most lane and attempt to pass on the right. I know this is wrong but I am only trying to get myself away from trouble. I hit the gas pedal and pull away from the Jeep as we approach a right hand radius in the highway. In the immediate I think to myself; "This would be a great place for a radar...". Before I can finish my thought I see a cruiser and a State Police jump into the right line pointing his finger directly at me...and he looks pissed. Gosh darn it!!! I know I'm busted and I know I did wrong. I hit the brakes and pull over immediately and directly in front of his parked cruiser on the right hand shoulder. The officer pulls his car forward to my rear lights on and then contacts me at the passenger side window. He asks for license and reg. I already had pulled out my wallet so I hand him my DL and MA -LTCA permit. In this state alerting the police of carry status is not required by law. But I choose to do so anyway, conditionally. he asks me what's the speed limit to which I report 65. He then states I was doing _84_ and asks me why. I try to remain calm and explain to him exactly what I've stated above and that I know I was wrong and am not going to try to lie or talk my way out of that. I just simply was concerned for my safety with the manner that the Suburban and Jeep were driving as prior coming from NoHo forward and that this was my first opportunity to pass. he looks at my license and the LTC-A permit and then asks if I am carrying right now. I respond yes, I am. He asks where to which I reply right side 3 O'Clock at the hip and IWB. I also have a spare magazine on the opposite side and a can of OC/CS in my left rear pocket but I do not report this ashe did not specifically ask for more info. And then he notes the t-shirt I just happened to be wearing. It's a Northampton Police emblazoned 'Citizens Police Academy' shirt. that I had gotten from them a couple of months ago. The only reason I selected it to wear outside away from my home is because I had no other clean shirt that I could wear to get dirty per my visit to S&W where I had expectation to be lifting some things and getting dirty. Otherwise I have NEVER worn that short beyond my own property. So I tell the officer I got it from the NoHo police as per the program I was participatory in. The officer says wait here, walks around to the front of my truck, and then walks to it's rear on the left side using his flashlight to look around within it. I'm driving my wifes SUV which is full of car seat and kid stuff like strollers, blankets, and toys. It's a rolling toy box. A second cruiser arrives as backup and he takes a position to our lower left maybe 10' to the rear. I call S&W and let them know I've been pulled over for speeding at a rate that is high and I'll either be late, or arrested. The officer returns to my passenger side window which I fully did not expect. I figured he'd come to my drivers side and ask me to step out...to be cuffed. He hands me back my documents and gave me a verbal warning to slow down. He states flatly that the ticket would have been $190 (!). I thanked him and promised that I would be more careful with my speed. I drove away and made it to S&W just 4 minutes late whilst driving at 65 the rest of the way. Was it my shirt o my having had an LTC-A as issued from a generally ranti-gun town or was it that my demeanor was relatively calm and I choose to not try to BS the officer or was it that he understood and witnessed my situation as the Jeep and SUV were just to my left when he jumped into the road. There is no way he missed them. I don't know. But the guys at S&W figure it was the shirt I was wearing. That is the first time I've worn a gunfu shirt in public in over a year aside from when I teach BHE courses and have afterward stopped in at public places to grab a bite to eat while wearing such emblazoned shirts and hat. As my own general rule I don't wear gunfu gear because I wish to remain grey as related to my carry condition. I stand out enough as it is being a minority in a place that is largely of the majority. Last thing I need or have desire to do is to wear my politics on my sleeve. I can cover that in person with people direct at my choosing and in the courses I instruct toward same. But Sunday for some reason wearing that gunfu shirt seems to have been an item that saved my butt. - Janq __________________ "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy Monday, March 12, 2007 -- Op Ed -- The Washington Post

July 2nd, 2009, 02:09 PM	#16
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,405	I usually don't wear 'gun shirts' but I do wear this quite often... Embroidered Hats and get lots of questons. --------------------------------------------------------- Janq...go buy a lottery ticket...it's certainly a lucky time for you. __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

July 2nd, 2009, 02:28 PM	#17
Janq VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,447	Later that day Retsupt I did in fact buy a trio of lottery tix, one for each of the pots for this week. I rarely buy lotto tix but then I rarely find myself side of the road talking to the po-po about my road speed and figuring on being arrested either. I've not had the nerve to check the tix win/lose status. - Janq __________________ "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy Monday, March 12, 2007 -- Op Ed -- The Washington Post

July 2nd, 2009, 11:57 AM	#11
RemMod597 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Off the X Posts: 336	I wear my NRA hat pretty much everywhere. Only gun shirt I have is an NRA Family, Freedom and Firearms that gets worn occasionally.

July 2nd, 2009, 12:49 PM	#13
Hopyard VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: College Station Posts: 2,755	I believe that a very important part of "self-preservation" is not wearing clothing which will bring attention to oneself. Also, not behaving in a manner that will bring attention to oneself. Blend in. If the folks on the street are in business suits, wear a suit. If they are in blue jeans wear blue jeans. Keep the message clothes to a minimum, or absent altogether. No signs, no badges, no special logos. You never know what can set someone off.

July 2nd, 2009, 02:39 PM	#19
trob09 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 41	I frequently wear a t-shirt I got from Gunsite, which is really just a shirt with the Gunsite raven embroidered on the left breast. "Joe Public" will be clueless that this is - in fact - a pro-gun shirt. Heck many firearms enthusiasts are clueless. Occasionally I'll get someone who recognizes it and asks a question like "when did you take your 250"... __________________ Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitude - Frederick Douglass

July 2nd, 2009, 08:12 PM	#20
highoctane Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: tn Posts: 614	Ive got a glock shirt and a few hunting shirts i wear on occasion but mostly i just wear normal everyday stuff.

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