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View Poll Results: Do you think the break in for a New Pistol is valid or not?
Yes, I break in all my handguns. 64 28.44%
No, I think the firearm should function outa the box period. 53 23.56%
Irrelevant, I always fire several hundred rounds through any new firearm. 101 44.89%
Other 7 3.11%
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Old September 17th, 2009, 10:50 PM   #21
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If it doesn't function out of the box it goes back to the shop. I don't believe in a break in period. I don't think there's anything out there now a days that requires a break in.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 10:56 PM   #22
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Voted irrelevant. On the one hand, I wouldn't carry anything I didn't have enough rounds through to be really confident with.

On the other hand I love the "break in" period as an excuse to spend more time at the range.

Fluff and buff is just not as much fun.
i would agree............ but i would hope that it would shoot right out the box. period whether i take it at the range or not....
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Old September 18th, 2009, 12:11 AM   #23
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Break-in? A Glock? Are you serious?

+1.........."GLOCK ON"
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Old September 18th, 2009, 09:04 AM   #24
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It comes to this: until you test, you don't know. Assumptions can be bad, if you rely upon them when they turn out to be incorrect. On a piece of life-saving equipment, that's bad juju in the worst way.

Me, I choose to assume that all guns will need a break-in for whatever reason, either gun-related, magazine-related, or ammo-related. Most have. What I believe should be so, or wish were true, doesn't come into it. Reality is. It's that simple, really, at least for me. YMMV.
That's basically my thought behind the pole.

Even if you don't believe in the manufactures suggested procedure, not to many of us, if any, are gonna buy a new pistol, load it up and hook it on the hip and forget about it. You're gonna take it to the range and put some rounds through it, which in the same sense, you're breakin in your new pistol, call it what you want.

IMO, this should be done with any new firearm, revolver included. Being that it's new, you owe it to yourself to get some quality trigger time just to get the feel of the weapon, trigger, recoil and so on. Besides, if there's something that's gonna go wrong with it, it'll probably happen then, and that's better than in the field.

By the pole results, I'd say the majority believes in one form of a break in or another. Either it's a manufactures suggested one, or the one we make on our own.
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Old September 18th, 2009, 10:05 AM   #25
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My opinion is that the need to break in is a fix for manufacturers taking short cuts. It's expensive to keep tools sharp. It's even more expensive to add a final finish step and polish moving parts, de-burr stamped parts, etc... Use will do this, but not as well as making it right to start.

Look at guns where all these steps are performed like an HK. You take it out of the box and shoot it and it works. Springs might be a little stiff, but everything is is silky smooth.
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My opinion is that the need to break in is a fix for manufacturers taking short cuts. It's expensive to keep tools sharp. It's even more expensive to add a final finish step and polish moving parts, de-burr stamped parts, etc... Use will do this, but not as well as making it right to start.

Look at guns where all these steps are performed like an HK. You take it out of the box and shoot it and it works. Springs might be a little stiff, but everything is is silky smooth.

HK or not, If I buy it new, it's gettin tested. Name recognition alone is not for me. I've had most big name brands of firearms over the years and I still approach each one the same way. My first experience with my Colt proved to me what I should do with any new firearm.


I would say, I doubt you will find to many if any, manufactures of good firearms today, that will no function OTB. Hell, even the Hi Points fire outta the box. Most brands have been test fired before they leave the factory, or at least they should have been. Either way, I agree that some steps are being skipped by some manufactures to make the process cheaper, but the design and general manufacturing involved will usually lend itself to a weapon that should function properly under controlled conditions. The problem is, will they function reliably OTB in most of the common everyday carry conditions, that is something you should not take for granted. For that reason alone, you should test your new firearm and make sure it functions as expected, IMO.
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Old September 18th, 2009, 10:55 AM   #27
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+1.........."GLOCK ON"
Over the years, I have had 2 Glocks that "BROKE" within the 1st 200 rounds. The first was a broken trigger spring, it fired but you had the shake it to reset the trigger. The second was a "bend/kinked" safety plunger spring, the 19 started to double. Both easy fixes from the spares box but I ALWAYS TEST / BREAK-IN ANY NEW TO ME GUN! Life is too short to take chances on a piece of machinery without testing it.
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Old September 18th, 2009, 11:08 AM   #28
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I fire all my handguns in the beginning to test for reliability so I voted #3.

However, I'm strong toward #2. Any handgun you pay your hard-earned money for, should work right out of the box. Guys who spend $1k on a 1911 shouldn't have to tinker with mags, recoil springs and shoot $300 worth of ammo through it before they're able to say "Something is wrong with this gun..." and send it back to the factory.

Modern handguns should work out of the box, period IMO.
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It should function out of the box. The "break in" period should be continued excellent performance as you learn the feel of the gun and gain confidence in your ability with that specific gun. I do expect things to work a little smoother such as the slide and mag releases as burrs are worn down. If after a couple of range sessions and cleanings the problems keep occurring it's time to get some customer service. I had a couple of FTF with hollow points in my Kel Tec P3AT so I sent it back to the factory for service/"fluff and buff". Since I've had it back it has performed without fail, but I'm still not 100% confident in it. I'm currently considering other options.
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Old September 18th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #30
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HK or not, If I buy it new, it's gettin tested. Name recognition alone is not for me.

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For that reason alone, you should test your new firearm and make sure it functions as expected, IMO.
Sure, most definitely. But you are just doing a functional check. With a better finished gun, you're not wearing off the burrs and rough spots (breaking in). That's the difference.

IMO, having to send stuff back to be fluffed and buffed is lame. They should do that to all of them, not just for the customers that have problems.
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