Got asked the Gun In The House ? today - Page 8

lazy · October 10th, 2009, 12:02 AM

you might want to just tell the DR the truth.
what if the DR was to give you a Med and you had Psycotic reaction?
He might just warn you, before hand,
(Like my DR asked my wife about us when I was on Meds during a treatment)
I told him it was ok, I didn't have any Bullits. out of Ammo .

Some peeps freak on pain killers, sleepers. Anti D's.
I really do think the DR gives a crap. If we got guns or not. all the DR I know like Guns.

AutoFan · October 10th, 2009, 01:12 AM

Asking if I have guns in my house is as relevant to my health as asking if I drive a car or have any medications/alcohol in the house, which is to say, almost no relevance, unless I'm suicidal. If it was on a form, I'd answer "no". If a doctor asked, I'd ask the doctor what medical school he or she graduated from, what was their standing in the class at the time of graduation and how many time they have been sued per year since they started practicing. Now those questions matter.

sniper58 · October 10th, 2009, 01:30 AM

It's getting to be common place. My pre-employment physical asked about my hobbies. I wanted the job so I just wrote camping, hiking and fishing. I felt like adding "in the Nunya-Dam State Park," but better judgment took over.

LongRider · October 10th, 2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoonee

I feel my job at physicals as your physician is to assess your overall health and try to prevent all the common causes of mortality and morbidity. That is, my job is to try and prevent premature death or disability while maintaining the healthiest lifestyle possible.

So you have NRA membership forms available in your office? A listing of local firearm instructors and training institutes? Do you encourage all of your patients that can lawfully carry a gun to do so? Do you discuss the need for them to take personal responsibility for their own safety? Do you make them aware of the fact that failure to carry the most effective possible means of self defense is nothing short of irresponsible? Based upon your post I doubt it

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Originally Posted by Spoonee

The number one cause of death in teenagers is accidents caused by either motor vehicles or firearms. This includes homicide and suicide by firearms..

I stopped reading here as this statement is misinformed unfounded in fact, inaccurate, untrue at best. A blatant lie fabricated by the pro crime brady bunch and other volunteer victims leagues of anti self defense fanatics. Whose bogus study passed off young adults to age 25 as teenagers, among other factual distortions to "prove" their theory. Perpetuated by those who are either unwilling, unable or just too incompetent to fact check. It along with the myth that you are more likely to be killed with your own gun than to defend yourself with it has been repeatedly disproved and discredited by legitimate credible unbiased researchers. Fact is a teenager is more likely to drown in the family pool or playing football than from a gun.
If preventing teenage violence is the goal the appropriate question is not if there is a gun in your home as that is irrelevant. The appropriate relevant question is; Is you kid a low life scum bag gang banger or crack head whore, because THAT is the reason behind most teenage violence. Not whether or not their parents are gun owners.

rottkeeper · October 10th, 2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LongRider

So you have NRA membership forms available in your office? A listing of local firearm instructors and training institutes? Do you encourage all of your patients that can lawfully carry a gun to do so? Do you discuss the need for them to take personal responsibility for their own safety? Do you make them aware of the fact that failure to carry the most effective possible means of self defense is nothing short of irresponsible? Based upon your post I doubt it

I stopped reading here as this statement is misinformed unfounded in fact, inaccurate, untrue at best. A blatant lie fabricated by the pro crime brady bunch and other volunteer victims leagues of anti self defense fanatics. Whose bogus study passed off young adults to age 25 as teenagers, among other factual distortions to "prove" their theory. Perpetuated by those who are either unwilling, unable or just too incompetent to fact check. It along with the myth that you are more likely to be killed with your own gun than to defend yourself with it has been repeatedly disproved and discredited by legitimate credible unbiased researchers. Fact is a teenager is more likely to drown in the family pool or playing football than from a gun.
If preventing teenage violence is the goal the appropriate question is not if there is a gun in your home as that is irrelevant. The appropriate relevant question is; Is you kid a low life scum bag gang banger or crack head whore, because THAT is the reason behind most teenage violence. Not whether or not their parents are gun owners.

+1
In their stats they also include those killed while in the commission of felonies, anything to boost the numbers. Stats are junk numbers thrown out to push an agenda...

F350 · October 10th, 2009, 08:22 AM

In the days before the New Bolsheviks gained power I would have been in the "NOYFB" crowd (I did put that on the long form census in 1990). But today I figure my medical records will be in the hands of the Bolsheviks shortly, so I will lie and say NO, anything else WILL be taken as a YES. I will lie and evade on all medical forms in any manor not directly germane to my visit or long term health from this point forward.

Grym · October 11th, 2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by F350

In the days before the New Bolsheviks gained power I would have been in the "NOYFB" crowd (I did put that on the long form census in 1990). But today I figure my medical records will be in the hands of the Bolsheviks shortly, so I will lie and say NO, anything else WILL be taken as a YES. I will lie and evade on all medical forms in any manor not directly germane to my visit or long term health from this point forward.

You might be surprised by this. To a reasonable human being, a response of N/A or NOYFB, is interpreted as a yes, but someone entering the response into an electronic medical record can't just put an affirmative response where there isn't one. Depending upon who it is, he or she could (in theory) get in trouble for that. In all likelihood, what gets entered will be something along the lines of no, n/a, blank, or deferred.

Considering how conservative the culture of medicine is, I always found it strange how strong of an anti-gun bias there is. I about flipped a gasket during a couple of lectures in med school about firearms, when the professors cited misleading information or jumped to conclusions they shouldn't have.

That being said, if you are experiencing suicidal thoughts or are seeing a psychiatrist or mental health professional for any reason, you should answer such questions truthfully. Doing otherwise is unfair to your physician, your loved ones, and yourself.

-Grym

jfl · October 11th, 2009, 05:03 PM

My doctor asks me everytime: "What are you carrying today ?"
Other firearm related question he asks me "Where can I find a decent price on an AR-15 ?"
That's mighty fine with me.

It really surprises me how people feel they have to answer every questions in a written questionnaire unless so obligated.
I usually leave many blank or NA.
When asked verbally I tend to talk a lot and not say much; bores the other person and they will not ask another question

Hkchris · October 11th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Does your doctor ask if you have a pool, did you drive to your appointment in a car, or do you eat red meat?

All these things statistically are much more dangerous than having a firearm in your house.

I like the NOYFB reply.

automatic slim · October 12th, 2009, 01:57 PM

My doctor asked me if I had any guns in my house too. She then wanted to know what kind/caliber, where I went shooting, if I reloaded/hunted and if I could recommend a good carry holster. My kind of doctor!

October 10th, 2009, 12:02 AM	#71
lazy Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Granbury,TX Posts: 40	you might want to just tell the DR the truth. what if the DR was to give you a Med and you had Psycotic reaction? He might just warn you, before hand, (Like my DR asked my wife about us when I was on Meds during a treatment) I told him it was ok, I didn't have any Bullits. out of Ammo . Some peeps freak on pain killers, sleepers. Anti D's. I really do think the DR gives a crap. If we got guns or not. all the DR I know like Guns. __________________ Glock 35 Glock 27 Marlin30-30 12ga AR-7 22 Remmington Rifle enuff knives to carry a different 1 everday

October 10th, 2009, 01:30 AM	#73
sniper58 Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,248	It's getting to be common place. My pre-employment physical asked about my hobbies. I wanted the job so I just wrote camping, hiking and fishing. I felt like adding "in the Nunya-Dam State Park," but better judgment took over. __________________ Tim BE PREPARED - Noah didn't build the Ark when it was raining! The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson ________ NRA Life Member

October 11th, 2009, 05:03 PM	#78
jfl Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Palm Beach County, FL Posts: 1,350	My doctor asks me everytime: "What are you carrying today ?" Other firearm related question he asks me "Where can I find a decent price on an AR-15 ?" That's mighty fine with me. It really surprises me how people feel they have to answer every questions in a written questionnaire unless so obligated. I usually leave many blank or NA. When asked verbally I tend to talk a lot and not say much; bores the other person and they will not ask another question __________________ The first rule of a gunfight: "Don't be there !" jfl (NRA Life Member/Instructor - GOA - IDPA - GSSF - ex-IHMSA)

October 12th, 2009, 01:57 PM	#80
automatic slim Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The western edge of The Confederacy Posts: 1,223	My doctor asked me if I had any guns in my house too. She then wanted to know what kind/caliber, where I went shooting, if I reloaded/hunted and if I could recommend a good carry holster. My kind of doctor! __________________ "First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand." Edge of Darkness

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October 10th, 2009, 01:12 AM	#72
AutoFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 1,145	Asking if I have guns in my house is as relevant to my health as asking if I drive a car or have any medications/alcohol in the house, which is to say, almost no relevance, unless I'm suicidal. If it was on a form, I'd answer "no". If a doctor asked, I'd ask the doctor what medical school he or she graduated from, what was their standing in the class at the time of graduation and how many time they have been sued per year since they started practicing. Now those questions matter.

October 10th, 2009, 08:22 AM	#76
F350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Al Taqaddum airbase, Iraq Posts: 699	In the days before the New Bolsheviks gained power I would have been in the "NOYFB" crowd (I did put that on the long form census in 1990). But today I figure my medical records will be in the hands of the Bolsheviks shortly, so I will lie and say NO, anything else WILL be taken as a YES. I will lie and evade on all medical forms in any manor not directly germane to my visit or long term health from this point forward.

October 11th, 2009, 05:17 PM	#79
Hkchris Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 21	Does your doctor ask if you have a pool, did you drive to your appointment in a car, or do you eat red meat? All these things statistically are much more dangerous than having a firearm in your house. I like the NOYFB reply.