Got asked the Gun In The House ? today - Page 9

2edgesword · October 12th, 2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoonee

I feel my job at physicals as your physician is to assess your overall health and try to prevent all the common causes of mortality and morbidity.

All due respect...

Firearms accidents are not a common cause of mortality.

As an adult it is MY JOB to protect myself and my family with respect to the storage and handling of my firearms.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for anyone that can go through the rigors of becoming a doctor. I would never challenge your expertise in dealing with medical issues but I think it is a real stretch to put firearms ownership, storage and handling under the umbrella of "medical issues" that should be addressed by doctors. I could swallow a paperclip and choke on it, does that mean doctors are now going to get involved in the dispensing, storage and usage of paperclips.

This is somewhat tongue in cheek but it's to make a point. To follow the logic you've expressed doctors should be asking questions related to what power tools are kept in the home. The question about firearms on a medical questionnaire is IMHO nothing more then another expression of the nanny state mentality.

imatt · October 12th, 2009, 03:36 PM

The wife and I had this conversation when we were looking a Dr for the little one. I told her if the Dr asks if there are any guns in the house (or if it was on a form), we would instantly leave. I refuse to let a doctor take care of my family that is so irrational that they disagree with self-defense.

Beans · October 12th, 2009, 08:08 PM

I would have to answered FO. Just because I am so PC

samh · October 13th, 2009, 12:58 AM

Never have seen that on my Doctor's forms, but I have talked guns with him in his office while he was showing me the 3 deer, several ducks and the other animal mounts he has on his office walls. He also showed me his Kimber .45 he keeps in his desk while at work, it's on his belt the rest of the time, we took our CC classes from the same instructor. Folks like him make me glad I live in rural Arkansas.

DaveH · October 13th, 2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by samh

we took our CC classes from the same instructor.

One of the instructor here conducts small group classes for just doctors -- as some want to keep it secret that they carry.

Harley 55 · October 13th, 2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoonee

Second, as a physician I am an expert in what kills people.

You may be an expert on what may/has killed people, but my military training makes it possible for you to learn how I did it.

MP45Man · October 22nd, 2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MP45Man

I had to make a trip to my general practitioner today for some lingering problems I've finally go fed up with. I have not been there in two years so they had me fill out the obligatory forms. On one of the forms it asked me if I had a gun in the house. I answered yes. I suspect my physician is as liberal as they come. It will be interesting to see if anything is said going forward. I may be going back quite frequently if they can't find the problem. Stay tuned.

I checked my mail today and I thought it was the results from my recent testing for the issues above. Well, it was the same form that I had filled out before. I have a physical scheduled for Nov. 6th and they wanted to be proactive and get the information. (Duh, they already have it). Nonetheless, I'm going to answer No on the form this time and see if my doc picks it up during the physical. I'm looking forward to a lively discussion.

ccw9mm · October 22nd, 2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoonee

I feel my job at physicals as your physician is to ...

There are a hundred or more things that could kill me, a score of which might be considered common. But accidental gunshot injury isn't one of them.

With a belief that drilling into uncommon causes is your job, particularly if I feel that belief trumps my desire and right to choose my life's choices, you wouldn't be my physician, initially; nor for long, after making it clear. Fairly simply, what will get done is what we agree is in my best interest for my health, not what you unilaterally choose to think ... white coat or not.

As a physician, your job should be to improve the quality of life, not merely the delaying of death. A healer and client should be unified on this goal, if on nothing else.

BTW, I believe this holds true for anything, from medicine to troubles with the toilet. But, that's just me. YMMV.

Welcome to DC.

Stevew · October 22nd, 2009, 08:55 PM

Why not anwer with "what good will do at the house if I am here?

oneshot · October 24th, 2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by packinnova

Heh...I don't fill out any of them except the pertinent questions(symptoms, family history, etc...). Everything else gets left blank. Don't give them any room. If you answer some of them and only skip the obvious ones (firearms drugs etc...) then that leaves them room to think about it and form their own "opinion". By not answering ANY of them, they can't form any opinion

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Sometimes the lack of knowledge is power.

good idea , I've done this b 4

October 13th, 2009, 12:58 AM	#84
samh Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Damascus, Arkansas Posts: 96	Never have seen that on my Doctor's forms, but I have talked guns with him in his office while he was showing me the 3 deer, several ducks and the other animal mounts he has on his office walls. He also showed me his Kimber .45 he keeps in his desk while at work, it's on his belt the rest of the time, we took our CC classes from the same instructor. Folks like him make me glad I live in rural Arkansas. __________________ Life Member NRA

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Stevew Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 343	Why not anwer with "what good will do at the house if I am here? __________________ Glock 22, GP100, S&W mod 60, Colt Delta Elite, Colt Govt 380, Ruger Single Six, Ruger Bearcat, Colt New Police

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October 12th, 2009, 03:36 PM	#82
imatt Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 308	The wife and I had this conversation when we were looking a Dr for the little one. I told her if the Dr asks if there are any guns in the house (or if it was on a form), we would instantly leave. I refuse to let a doctor take care of my family that is so irrational that they disagree with self-defense.

October 12th, 2009, 08:08 PM	#83
Beans Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AZ Territory, Border County Posts: 418	I would have to answered FO. Just because I am so PC